Are there any questions I can ask to try and determain weather or not the angels from my lfs will grow to old average size, or be smaller? I would prefer them to stay smaller than 8 inches, but at the same time, I want healthy fish.
Need some smallish cichlids
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Dumerilii or Leopoldi depending upon whom you believe has the proper name is the slightly smaller.
SnakeIce - I've just googled, and nowhere is the heigth of scalare listed as 12" and a 20 long is only 12" tall anyway...so that big angelfish would have had one fin above water if there was any substrate.
Unless someone has a good reference elsewhere, P. scalare doesn't grow more 8" in height - now P. altum is different and is cited as growing 12" to 15" in height.
Here's a great link to Dr. Leibel's article on angels: http://finarama.com/tba/chronicles/leibel.htm
Eric
SnakeIce - I've just googled, and nowhere is the heigth of scalare listed as 12" and a 20 long is only 12" tall anyway...so that big angelfish would have had one fin above water if there was any substrate.
Unless someone has a good reference elsewhere, P. scalare doesn't grow more 8" in height - now P. altum is different and is cited as growing 12" to 15" in height.
Here's a great link to Dr. Leibel's article on angels: http://finarama.com/tba/chronicles/leibel.htm
Eric
Jayhawk said:
I'll admit exagerating that fish's total hight, but when he flared his fins he was water surface to scrapeing gravel in span.
I got the 12" measurement as a maximum out of a responce that steve@angelsplus.com sent me when I asked how quickly angels grow and what is the maximum size.
he said that angels are still growing untill about two years of age, but the first year is when the significant majority of the growth occurs.
there are different lines of angels with different combonations of the various wild angels and thus a range of possible dimensions and some color varietys have more compact finage than others.
I saw an angel at my lfs about a year ago that had to have been 12 inches long. Beautiful white one. Right now there is a pair there for sale, they are probably 6 inches a piece, probably got too big for the owner, so they brought them back to the store.
SnakeIce - I'm sure with the interbreeding of wilds and earlier imported/now domesticated scalare, you're probably right there could be some larger strains. Despite Dr. Liebel's article, I'm not 100% convinced there aren't separate species being imported as scalare that'll eventually be given their own name.
I do still believe the VAST majority of scalare will max out at about 8" tall and 4-6" in length which is a much more reasonably sized fish to keep in most of our tanks!
Eric
I do still believe the VAST majority of scalare will max out at about 8" tall and 4-6" in length which is a much more reasonably sized fish to keep in most of our tanks!
Eric
