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Dixon

Dixon

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well i am a complete newbie at marine and i was going to set up another tank and try and breed some Uaru fernandies but i want to go marine instead.
anyway the tank will be a 30lx30wx20h although i could go higher and i have 2 spare external filters which can filter 2200lph along with heaters.
i want to keep a dwarf lionfish and a few others if this will be ok but i want to know how do i set it up and how do i maintain it.
what can i keep with the lionfish and what type of set up should i go for.
basicaly i need to know everything.
dixon
 
I really don't know much about the lion . I'll have to leave that to someone else. Imo, a fish only with live rock, or other live rock based tank is by far the easiest to maintain. The l.r. will denitrify you water and provide with natural hiding places, places for your fish to graze, and more diversity to your tank. http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37617
You'll also need to set your tank up with a good foundation. ;)
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84360
You'll need to cycle your tank of course . Their are a couple of ways to go about this you can either use cured live rock or uncured your choice. Place it in your tank try not to make a rock wall let it have enough empty space for hiding spots and water flow. You may need to plastic strap it all together for added stability. Then add sand to your tank and fill with water. Try to keep your ammonia levels below 1ppm that way you won't kill off all your invertebrates. This way is slower but, you get a lot more diversity in the tank if you can keep your parameters in check.
If you're like me though and you're pressed for time use cured live rock. Stress your tank to about 1ppm then slowly stock the tank. Add any peaceful natured inhabitants before you add anything more aggressive.
hth
Chris
 
ok so fish only with live rock option sounds good.
i would also just by the ready cured stuff along with live sand.
ok this is a start i will get info on these and then take it from there.

still need onfo on the fish i can keep so i can research them too.
 
Since you are familiar with predators, a lion should be great for you. The only real diffiuclty people have with lions are feeding, since lions are very hardy.

For feeding, use a feeding stick. Use frozen, freeze-dried, or fresh shrimp, silversides, etc. Wiggle it in front of the lion to make it look live. The lion may not take it at first, keep trying though.

Soaking the food in garlic may make the lion more eager to accept it.
 
FreddytheFish said:
Since you are familiar with predators, a lion should be great for you. The only real diffiuclty people have with lions are feeding, since lions are very hardy.

For feeding, use a feeding stick. Use frozen, freeze-dried, or fresh shrimp, silversides, etc. Wiggle it in front of the lion to make it look live. The lion may not take it at first, keep trying though.

Soaking the food in garlic may make the lion more eager to accept it.
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Thanks for the info and i have had experience of feeding fish like that with a garfish.


i will check that link when i get home max i am at work at the moment.
dixon
 
ok then fishlist

Dendrochirus zebra
Epinephelus summana - spotted grouper

you may get the idea now
thats it so far
dixon
 
lol, sounds to me like you want some big preds,"that quite a surprise you know ;)." I don't know much about either fish so I'll p.m. mono she may have a better answer for you.
Chris
 
The grouper gets pretty large (10")...not exactly sure how well they will do with Lions (they tend to be a bit aggressive and they share the same territory as the Lion). The tank is a 77g right? If so you could do a Lion, a Wrasse of some kind (med-large sp), a LARGE clownfish (either Clarkii or Marron....otherwise will be Lion food), Marine Betta, etc. Your options are pretty endless. Anyway hope this helps and good luck!
 
Hey Dixon...welcome to the salty side....the grouper is definately going to get too big, and I would be hesitant to get a lion, unless it was a dwarf lion. Although your tank is 77 gallons, a lot of that is due to its height. Your length and width in either direction is no longer than a standard 29 gallon tank. Area Is really more important, and with the size of most lions, they are going to be happier with some more length to the tank. Clowns, some smaller wrasses, cardinals, etc. would be fine. If I had a "square" tank, I think a reef set up, with the live rock piled in the center, would be pretty dramatic. You could start with easier corals - mushrooms, polyps, etc., some inverts, a clown, a cool goby, maybe a small basslet or cardinal fish, etc. Just a thought! have fun!
 
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