New 150 gal death trap

dude, im a nweb, and even I can see that you have WAY too many chemicals in there.

as mentioned, ammonia removers are going to screw up your cycle as the bacteria have nothing to feed on if the ammonia isnt there.... and once the bacteria have arrived they begin converting the ammonia.

so without ammonia, your cycle wont start.

also, having ammonia removers that are in your actual filter can leech ammo back into the water when they are full..... which might explain why your ammo wouldnt go down.

You should be using prime as well, if not forever, then during the cycle anyway, because it will detoxify ammonia nitrites and nitrates, but the ammonia and nitrites will still be available for cycling.
not only that the stuff lasts forever (5ml per 50g) and is simply an amazing product.

Chemicals = bad, and ive done enough reading here to tell you, that what people are telling you above, is the same thing they tell everyone else with similar problems.
stop using all the chemicals and chemical removers.... there is also a possibility that with the different mix of chemicals you could be creating some other kind of chemical reaction... think of it this way, you can add bleach to water, and you can add vinegar to water, but if you add them both to water you will get a deadly gas.... chemical reactions kill.

mind you, Im just throwing a guess out there, but it would seem likely that you could get a reaction of some kind, based on all the chemicals your using.

well thats my two Canadian cents.... thats like half a cent American :)
 
As for getting your water change water to tank water temp I stand mine in my bath tub with the plug in of course and fill the tub with warm water whilst im siphoning out the old water. This gently warms your new water while you work so by the time your ready to add the fresh water it wont be a shock of cold for your fish
 
You do not have to change the media in the canister at all unless it is literally falling apart or has been contaminated in some way that cannot be gotten rid of. You can however rinse the media that is in the canisters in old tank water which has been removed from a water change.

Marinemom

Fully agree with this comment
 
Im not sure why everyone has such a big deal with chemicals being added to tank water. Most are designed to help your fish not harm them by making there enviroment more hospitable. I use mainly seachem products, Prime, Stability, Flourish, Cichlid Trace and Clarity and never lost a fish from it yet. Infact all my fish look brighter and happier than when I bought them. Also due to my tap water being very hard the phosphate and nitrate levels are high from the off so I also use rowaphos in my filter to reduce phosphates from 5 to 0.5 and tetra nitrate minus to reduce my nitrates from 75mg/l to 25mg/l. Before I started using the last 2 products my tank would be thick with algae within 3 days, now it isn't so there is something to be said about chemicals being used if needed. If they were bad for you fish they wouldn't be on the market!

If you did weekly water changes a chemical to reduse NITRATE would not be nececary. yes I read where you said that it was from the tap but that is what plants are for.
 
Just out of curiousity then, those of you that only use a water conditioner in your tanks, what is your tap water like? Mine is exceptionally hard and full of limescale. In order for it not clog up the pipes the phosphate levels are really high as are the nitrates. My tap ph is 7.6!
 
If you did weekly water changes a chemical to reduse NITRATE would not be nececary. yes I read where you said that it was from the tap but that is what plants are for.

I do a 50% water change every 6 six days on both tanks thank you:angryfire:
 
If you did weekly water changes a chemical to reduse NITRATE would not be nececary. yes I read where you said that it was from the tap but that is what plants are for.

The nitrates from my tap water are 75 mg/l, not my tank water, i have to use the nitrate minus to get it down to 25 mg/l before it enters the tank
 
Most cichlids do not need plants in their tank. They come from a very rocky environment in their natural environs with little or no plants. This is especially true of African cichlids that require very heavy rockwork such as rock all along the back wall with lots of cubbies for them to dart in and out of so they feel safe and secure. If your PH is 7.6 that is actually low for Africans. They prefer a PH of 8 or higher. They are then at their happiest. South American and Central American cichlids enjoy a PH that is a little lower and wiil put up with some plants but they need to be tough plants such as Anubias. There are several to choose from some that are quite tall while others are miniature in size.

Hope this helps.

Marinemom
 
Do you have as sump, if so plant them in there, but most chemicals have negative effects too, of and my tap PH is 6.5 and I have to use limestone to rasise it high enough for my chiclids. Oh and Anubias is what are in my tank Nitrates are7.5 PPM. And african rift lakes contain alot of plant life in the really shalow water.
 
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