It is a mess. And I get so annoyed with all of the huffing about piracy. Piracy affects the artists so much less than the greedy scumbag record companies do. If they are so concerned with piracy they should drop their costs. At the same time, I don't want to be sued, so I don't participate in sharing either. I've stopped buying new CDs entirely and I buy fewer used. I think in the long run these companies are shooting themselves in the foot. I hope.
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Rationalizing stealing by saying that the person you are stealing from has enough already doesn't exactly make it right. I don't remember any artist saying they were going broke because of piracy. They simply wanted to get what they are entitled to. The produce a product, its quality and their experience making it are irrelevant. If you want it you have to pay for it. If you don't want to pay the price asked for it, don't buy it.
In the end, music piracy doesn't really affect the overall music sales as I understand. I read the results of a study rcently that basically said the people who are downloading music illegally would never have actually purchased the music in the first place. So, if these folks were never really part of the market, they can't really cut into it by pirating the product.
In the end, music piracy doesn't really affect the overall music sales as I understand. I read the results of a study rcently that basically said the people who are downloading music illegally would never have actually purchased the music in the first place. So, if these folks were never really part of the market, they can't really cut into it by pirating the product.
I don't steal it, but all of the whining that the record industry does about piracy and all of the nonsense like sueing kids for downloading songs has jaded me to the point where I spend as little as possible on their product. I realize that if they were shoplifting they woudl and should be prosecuted but to me this is just a bit different. I know legally it isn't but still- they were just making an example. If I find an artist I like on an independant label I'm thrilled to buy it new but I can wait to buy everything else used. These companies are just getting out of hand.
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In the end, music piracy doesn't really affect the overall music sales as I understand. I read the results of a study rcently that basically said the people who are downloading music illegally would never have actually purchased the music in the first place. So, if these folks were never really part of the market, they can't really cut into it by pirating the product.
If this is the case, entertainers should be thrilled that people are downloading their music! This would mean that their product is being distributed to people that would never actually purchase their album. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
In the end, music piracy doesn't really affect the overall music sales as I understand. I read the results of a study rcently that basically said the people who are downloading music illegally would never have actually purchased the music in the first place. So, if these folks were never really part of the market, they can't really cut into it by pirating the product.
If this is the case, entertainers should be thrilled that people are downloading their music! This would mean that their product is being distributed to people that would never actually purchase their album. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
FishSeller said:
A lot of the indy labels are thrilled with downloaded music. It gets their stuff out there without them having to spend. The real problem as I see it is that the larger labels have gotten so big they think they can force music down our throat by spending huge money promoting it.
Think Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, and the hundreds formed in their image that failed to sell CDs actually have enough raw talent to be superstars? Not hardly. They're cute, have decent enough voices and were molded into what the record execs thought the public would buy. The label spends a huge amount of cash promoting them (that cash usually comes out of the performer's cut by the way), brainwashes the public into buying their crap, and cashes the checks.
The problem is, for every one Britney Spears there are 20 girls the label spent a ton on who never came close to breaking even. Its their shotgun approach to manufacturing performers that pushes them to take 80% from the sucessful artists to cover their losses on the ones that never panned out.
So, if you want to pirate music because you're protesting the record companies, I might buy into it. They need to alter their practices or they're going to lose. The digital age is making it nearly impossible to wipe out music piracy and increasing costs of legal copies is pushing even the most moral listener to at least try out their music digitally before they buy.
?!? It's not like this is recent. I have several older CD's that can't be copied. What's the big deal? It's not like this applies just to music--book, movies, software--it's all purchased under a license that has limitations on the use.
I have heard that if you hook up an external regular cd player to your cpu.
There is a program that will let you rip it off of that player bypassing the security features.
Give it a bit of time though. Anything that those boobs at the record companies come up with security wise has already been cracked by the hackers before it is even implimented.
The record companies are a joke they have been ripping people for years by overcharging for a cd that costs them about $2 to make. Now that the world has caught up and caught on to the scam they are now crying foul. What did Sony make last year? What? 5 billion. I'm suppose to feel sorry that it was down from 6 billion the year before? Meanwhile they are charging upwards of $20 for a Velver Revolver cd. Screw them!
Don't feel so sorry for the artists either. The money they make off of cd sales is chump change compared to what they make on tour. That is where the real money is made. They make money off of everything on tour. The tickets, the shirts etc...
The money made off of sales is nothing. usually less than 10 cents an album sold. It is only the real greedy sobs like Metallica who say that it is their property that is being stolen when in fact in 99% of cases the record companies are the intellectual copyright owners of the music once it is recorded. Not the artists. They give that up the second that they sign a record deal.
If you really want to support the artists. Go see them on tour and buy some stuff.
There is a program that will let you rip it off of that player bypassing the security features.
Give it a bit of time though. Anything that those boobs at the record companies come up with security wise has already been cracked by the hackers before it is even implimented.
The record companies are a joke they have been ripping people for years by overcharging for a cd that costs them about $2 to make. Now that the world has caught up and caught on to the scam they are now crying foul. What did Sony make last year? What? 5 billion. I'm suppose to feel sorry that it was down from 6 billion the year before? Meanwhile they are charging upwards of $20 for a Velver Revolver cd. Screw them!
Don't feel so sorry for the artists either. The money they make off of cd sales is chump change compared to what they make on tour. That is where the real money is made. They make money off of everything on tour. The tickets, the shirts etc...
The money made off of sales is nothing. usually less than 10 cents an album sold. It is only the real greedy sobs like Metallica who say that it is their property that is being stolen when in fact in 99% of cases the record companies are the intellectual copyright owners of the music once it is recorded. Not the artists. They give that up the second that they sign a record deal.
If you really want to support the artists. Go see them on tour and buy some stuff.
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Amen Scott!
In the meantime, I need to burn a Social D album for a coworker that "used to be punk rock back in the NOFX days". Wow...I've gotten old.
In the meantime, I need to burn a Social D album for a coworker that "used to be punk rock back in the NOFX days". Wow...I've gotten old.
