new to salt water.

I have a buddy that had (he had to break his tank down) a Radiatta lion in a tank with halide lighting. The lion didn't hide at all. Was active everytime I was over there. Course, that was usually to see him feed the fish when we'd go by his house on our lunch break, so the lion was probably anxious to eat. I had a Yellow Tang in my tank and he was NEVER in hiding. That fish as anything but shy..

The shrimp thing, yer right, everyone has their own opinions on how to do things. But if you think about it, you'll see that I'm right. The buddy that I mentioned had to break his tank down cuz he was getting a divorce and I was the lucky recipient of his live rock. We put the rock in my tank and imediately added some of his fish to it. No spike, no nothing. My tank was instantly ready to support the fish. Same would go for anyone's tank with a 100% liverock setup. I know this works and I'd do it again without hesitation..
 
Thanks guys... I've decided that a reef tank with a lion fish was the set up I'd eventually shoot for because I was told it was one of the only predator fish that would be alright in a reef setting. I know about the nitrate waste from predators but was talking to the manager of my LFS today for a few hours and he was showing me the lighting I would need, I don't think I will go for the high end hard coral but I really like the polyps and the mushrooms. Um... I’m not sure how you would use glue to keep the rocks together since I've never done this before but he mentioned how a moray eel would be creeping around through the live rock and might end up knocking things around also that a trigger fish is very curious and might get stung and would bite back and possibly cause an infection to whatever it went against. He told me that it isn't very common for someone to ask about a predator reef tank though but he said it might be a beautiful set up if you had "three maybe even four different species of lion fish in your tank". I've been going to talk to him for the last month but just recently about the animals I was just asking him which tank I could fit and have been trying to save some money so I wouldn't have to worry about a budget. But I mean I just realized the tank I'm going to order is 48" long 28" wide and i think 24" tall its a 120 gallon... there’s a lot of room in there! How many weeks should I wait after i just have a live rock and water in the tank before I introduce a lion fish in to it... he told me after about 6 weeks with a fish in there I can put some starter soft coral in the tank but I just want to get the timing right. I still don't know much about protein skimmers... and are oscillating heads good for a tank to push the water from the wet/dry filter back up into your tank???

neil.

THANKS EVERYBODY!
 
Although polyps and shrooms are hardy I definitely would not do several species of lion. If you did that you would have to do water changes twice a week practically to keep water quality in check. As long as you stack the rock work well then there will be no need for glueing the rocks together. I have a 3ft Zebra moray which is one of the thicker clumsier morays and I have never glued any of the rocks. BTW, a Trigg won't cause an infection a trigg will eat the coral. I have always found it good to wait awhile on the corals so anyway, thats just me. Anyway, hope this helps.
 
Iw ouldnt trust it when LFS employees tell youa fish or invert is reef safe. Alot of LFS will tell you Chocolate chip seastars are reef safe, when in reality it will strip your reef clean and eat any invert smaller then it.
 
No, mixing lions is not a good thing. Your LFS employee is trying to make a big sale, and yer the poor sucker buying it. Do the reef, solfties and polyps, perhaps even do a larger clown with an amemone, like a Maroon and a Long Tentacle.
 
what about having the same types of lion fish in the same tank? not mixing different ones. how long should i wait to put reefs in... and can someone explain protien skimmers to me from their experience and which i would need for a 120 gallon tank... and about an occilating pump to bring the water back into the tank? thanks guys.

neil.
 
For your sump questions, head on over to the DIY forum. Slipknottin is our resident plumbing expert, he can fix ya right up =)

I honestly can't answer your question about housing multiple lions of the same species together, I've never seen it done or read about it. There is probably a good reason I've never seen it, (read: bad idea!) but I can't say for sure.
 
Oh and skimmers... The process is fairly simple really - water is put through an impeller that "chops" the water up, making foam like you see on a river with rapids.. That foam attracts the proteins in the water and they rise to the surface where the protein rich foam is collected in a cup.

As for brand... The only brand of skimmer I'll ever buy is AquaC. I have the Remora on my 55 and I adore it.
 
One can mix different types of lions together like the Dwarf Zebra, Fuzzy, Fu Manchu and Radiata say. Or you can have a tank with a few Volitans and Russels. Lions occur in the wild singly but they will pack hunt. They are not aggressive to their own kind it is just the amount of waste that they produce is not something a lot of people want to deal with so they only have one lion per tank. I used to have a Fu Manchu and a Dwarf Zebra together and they did great. Just so you know. But again it is not smart to put more than one lion in you reef tank. If you do you might as well not go with corals cause the only thing you will be able to keep alive are mushrooms. So it is either one lion in a predator tank or a couple of lions in a predator (FOWLR) tank. Anyway, hope this helps.
 
Mono, what kind of mixture would you suggest for his tank size? Ignoring the waste issues. Wouldn't a "pride" of lions require some serious real-estate? Even Dwarf Zebras get 6-8". To me, more than a couple of those guys in a 55 or so would be pushing it. Beautiful, but overstocked. I'm not knocking the idea, heck I think a reef tank with a lion zooming around would be BEAUTIFUL as well as a tank with a few lions conering some ghost shrimp. I love to watch em hunt =) I just wanna know what is reasonably possible.

This dicussion goes well with the plans I currently have for my 55. I want to rearrange things so that I can put a lion in there. I'm leaning towards an Antenatta right now.
 
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