new to salt water.

The guy at my LFS was a really nice guy he said that fu man chue (sp) and the dwarf zebra lion fish and other fish like MonoSebaelover mentioned. I think there would be pleanty of room to put two... MAYBE three lion fish as long as they wouldn't have a problem with eachother I was thinking two voilitare and a dwarf... again... its a 120 gallon tank 4feet long 2feet wide... and I can add the reefs due to space avaiable when my fish are larger... just wondering about mixing them becuase I honestly want a preadtor tank but since it will be the main tank in my house everybody sugests to just forget about the predator and make it a reef tank for people to enjoy as a focal point... and a lion fish (when i was told possible to put in a reef tank) was the best thing anyone could ever say... and if I can't have more than one lion fish... could i glue my rocks (if needed) and have a moray eel... I've only seen a snowflake at my LFS could anyone elaborate on their habits and how they act in a tank set up with reefs... thanks.

neil.
 
Neil,
It looks like you made up your mind on the predator reef tank. But besides going to this website or going to your LFS have you actually done any research on the issue. Have you picked up any books on the types of fish you want and any on reef tanks?
Well, you are getting a very nice fish tank, I myself would love to do a reef in a tank this size but you must remember that you will need roughly 200 pounds of Live rock for this tank. (1.5-2 pounds per gallon) So that is gonna be the biggest cost you will have going for the tank, next to the lights and tank itself.
But this is a typical beginer response, wanting a predator tank. But as Mono and corax has made mentioned, alot of issues with a tank like this. Small lions will also get big. Now if you go the moray route, take it from my experience, i have lost 2 eels (at various times) through climbing out of the tank and duing the carpet crawl. If you think your tank is sealed, check again, they will find a way out. But I am like Corax right now, I have a 75 gallon tank that my girlfriend wants me to turn it into a reef tank, I have all of the equipment on hand, lights, skimmer, filter but I would like to set it up as a Lion fish tank. Its a tough choice, but I am from the school its either or. I had a friend who had a reef tank and did all the cool stuff you are wanting and boy, did they cause problems. Eels, climbing out or eaten by his lion, fu manchu lion fish eating other fish (10 total), Octopus eating all of his snails and hermit crabs. I on the other hand did the reef tank (with compatable fish only) and had an incredible tank. My friend was more envious of my purple rocks and huge corals. The only problem I had was when I moved, the reef crashed. I removed all the live rock and sold it to a LFS (in exchange for the 75 gallon plexiglass tank and other items.).
So my recommendation is before you buy items for your tank, first buy some books. I know alot of people here could recommend some really nice ones.

The Reef Tank Owner's Manual: A Practical Guide to Establishing and Maintaining a Coral Reef Aquarium
by John H. Tullock


Reef Tank Owner's Manual by John H. Tullock
Your First Marine Aquarium: Everything About Setting Up a Marine Aquarium, Aquarium Conditions and Maintenence, and Selecting Fish and Invertebrates (Barron's Complete Pet Owner's Manuals) by John H. Tullock
I am a big fan of this book,
The Reef Aquarium: A Comprehensive Guide to the Identification and Care of Tropical Marine Invertebrates (Volume 1) by J. Charles Delbeek, Julian Sprung, Charles Delbeek, Martin A., Jr. Moe, Peter Wilkens
The Reef Aquarium: A Comprehensive Guide to the Identification and Care of Tropical Marine Invertebrates (Vol 2)
by Julian Sprung, J. Charles Delbeek

whew.. that is a list. I would suggest start reading for your information and if you have any questions, give us a hollar.

jim
 
Ok... if i started the tank, I would only have the lion fish and the reef. I'm aware that a lion fish would eat everything else so, i wouldn't have put anything else with them in the reef tank. I have read one of those books. I own two different ones on the subject but its just the fish. Um... is that a pretty good rule though for that size of a tank to NEED 200lbs of live rock? That would be as much as buying a whole new tank with everything (filter, heater, stand, lights, skimmer)... just wondering.

neil.
 
Actually, if you skim HEAVILY (buy a skimmer rated for well above your tank size) and stock lightly (2 lions, tops) then you don't need THAT much LR. 1lb/gallon would suffice probably.Keep in mind you can always go the baserock route. Much cheaper, but it takes longer to look nice.

So ya know... Another fish you could consider for your predatory reef would be a larger Hawkfish. Very interesting critters and very able to avoid a lion fish. Get one of the bigger species and it should do fine.
 
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