Newbie with betta (didn't know betta! haw!)

are your gouramis three spot gouramis? they are aggressive and can kill fish smaller than them.

also, please don't feed your turtles fish. they are bad for their health.
 
first- you do not need to totally clean the tank every time you chang ethe water. 25% a week after your tank is cycled along with vaccuming the gravel with a siphon is enough.

your blue gourami was probably attacked by the other gourami in the tank. male gouramis are pretty aggressive towards one another, they will chase and fight with each other until one dies. blue gouramis can become bullies with fish that are smaller than they are, be careful and keep an eye on him with the other fish, they might get killed by either one of them.

your missing neons are probably in the pot still or around somewhere on the floor from jumping out of the tank.
 
The guaramis are not three-spot guaramis. They are red and blue dwarf guarimis?

As for the goodly turts...I'm not feeding them fish. When I got them from the pet store, thats what their diet was, along with live plants (slight pyramiding on the older one, but getting better every day!). I wanted to make sure they had something they could recognize to eat. I joined a turtle forum too, and people give GREAT advice there. :) Now they have pellets, and veggies and a little cuttlebone. Happy turts!!

To be honest, I've sort of had a total crash course in aquatic creatures! Our neighbors have a few little girls down the block. Together, at the beach, we found a turtle in the surf. I recognized him as an RES. I knew that was freshwater. So we took him home to save him. Well, he died within hours. I don't know why he was in the ocean, but there you have it. My fiance and I are such softies, we didn't have the heart to tell the girls what happened. Next thing you know, we have a new turtle. And another one. And now a fish tank. And, apparently, I'm getting another one for the betta. Better learn how to break bad news before WE have kids, or I'll end up with a farm!!

I didn't know much about aquatic pets--but boy am I learning! I'm also learning how ridiculously happy little swimming, living things can make a person :)
 
jm1212 said:
first- you do not need to totally clean the tank every time you chang ethe water. 25% a week after your tank is cycled along with vaccuming the gravel with a siphon is enough.

your blue gourami was probably attacked by the other gourami in the tank. male gouramis are pretty aggressive towards one another, they will chase and fight with each other until one dies. blue gouramis can become bullies with fish that are smaller than they are, be careful and keep an eye on him with the other fish, they might get killed by either one of them.

your missing neons are probably in the pot still or around somewhere on the floor from jumping out of the tank.

Good to know about the tank cleaning--as I mentioned before, I started with a turtle tank, and I guess I thought the same rule applied. Makes life easier!

I'll totally keep an eye on the guarami. I have noticed one attacking my gravel vac when I go in with it. This may be a dumb quesiton, but how do you sex them?

Strange as this is... the tetras are not in the pot nor on the ground. Believe me. I literally got on my hands and knees. Weird.
 
kikicool said:
the only suspect I could think of was the betta? Would she (oh she is female) EAT tetras?? and bite the gaurami?

I highly, highly doubt she could have eaten the tetras, If she did, then your tetras can't be more than a month old. She could have bitten the gourami, but I'd be willing to bet it was because of the tiny space (when you crowd fish, they either get more aggressive, or basically just float there - bettas are more adaptable to small spaces so she probably went aggressive on them.), in the 55 she should be fine.

The top fin on the gouramis should be pointed in males, rounded in females.
 
Got it. Thanks, Julian. Looks like I have one of each--male and female.

Thank you all for your help! I'll certainly keep you posted. Good night!
 
jm1212 wrote:
first- you do not need to totally clean the tank every time you chang ethe water. 25% a week after your tank is cycled along with vaccuming the gravel with a siphon is enough.

your blue gourami was probably attacked by the other gourami in the tank. male gouramis are pretty aggressive towards one another, they will chase and fight with each other until one dies. blue gouramis can become bullies with fish that are smaller than they are, be careful and keep an eye on him with the other fish, they might get killed by either one of them.

I agree.

As for the neons.....Do you have a cover on your tank?
They may or may not have jumped, but a well covered tank would eliminate that possibilty.

Now....do you ever check your water values (ph, ammonia, nitrate, nitrite)? If your tank has only been running for a month....there's a possibility that your ammonia or nitrites are spiking and your neons are the "canaries in the coalmine." If they are, and they died overnight, the other fish might have eaten the corpses.

Jim1212 mentioned a 25% water change every week after the tank is cycled....do you know what he meant by "cycling." If not, we'll gladly explain it, or you can look it up, there are many threads on the subject.

Have you pulled up all of your tank decorations and sifted through the gravel? They also may still be in the tank. If that's the case, you want to remove the bodies- it's really not good to have decomposing fish in there.

Gouramis often do not get along well with each other....particularly different species. Your tank is large, so there was a possiblity that it would have worked out...but it would seem that perhaps it hasn't.

What kind of hiding spots do you have in your tank? If the water is too open, fish often feel exposed and get nervous....aggression sometimes results. Can you post a picture of your tank to give us a better idea?

In terms of the tank divider or separate tank, that's up to you. A divider would mean that you don't have to maintain two totally separate tanks. It would be a less expensive option. I, personally, don't always love the way dividers look (though sometimes it's done well)- other people like the look dividing their fish...it sort of makes one tank become two or three, without all the fuss of cleaning and water changing two tank....and the advantage of the more stable water parameters of a larger setup. On the other hand....I like the way small tanks with bettas look (not the little itty bitty betta box tanks, mind you- those are cruel- as I said before- I think that 2 or 3 gallons should be a minimum size.) Really, I think you should go to an aquarium store, look around and decide what you think looks best. Then you can either buy the products there or order them online (probably cheaper).
 
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