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Newly setup 22 long planted concerns

Discussion in 'Planted Aquariums' started by Barber Mike, Apr 30, 2018.

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    Hahah!! Thanks so much for the informative post Jen, as always.
    And please, no worries -- life comes first. I'm happy to have any help with this CO2 stuff at all.

    So yes, good riddance to the Aquatek. I'd figured I'd just make the most of it, but waking up to a motionless bubble counter was the last straw. I've got a lot invested and I wish I hadn't skimped on the regulator initially. However, I am so exited to receive my GLA reg, you have no idea. Finally get some piece of mind with this.

    As far as algae, I did a bit of researching too and you are right in your advice. Another possible cause I found for the hair algae is fluctuating CO2 lol. I'm not sure if the flux I currently have is responsible, but it's another reason to lose the Aquatek lol. Will make sure to do extra water changes if need be, and keep the ferts up. It's prominently on the driftwood (which I only soaked for 2 days). You're right, I've read around it can be common in new establishments. May also have to do with the status of my cycle which is now in full swing. Changed the water last night and tested after work today. Ammonia is dropping but still present, nitrites are through the roof and I'm starting to see nitrates in the 5-10ppm range. Lot of life blooming about. The algae hasn't taken anything over by any means. I will take what I can physically during my water changes.

    The snails seem to be munching on the algae. The majority of them are congregated on the driftwood feasting. I guess they are welcome... for now:eek:.

    Thanks, as always.
    Will be back with updates.
     
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    As of tonight:
    Ammonia down to .50ppm
    Nitrites off the charts
    Nitrates up to 40/80ppm

    Changed the water about 90% again after reading above parameters. Pruned any unhealthy looking leaves/stems. Seems as though my nitrates are ramping up. Hoping to zero out ammonia and experience a decrease in nitrites soon.

    I have been dosing Cory from Aquarium Co-op's all in one Simple Green liquid fertilizer per its instructions. Twice a week. I'm curious, what's your fertilizing schedule? I was tempted to dose again after this water change tonight but opted out in fear of over fertilzing. I typically dose after my water change on Monday (the day I'll do my weekly changes once I finally get to once a week :mad:) and Thursday. When do you dose your ferts? Is there any special when and how?
     
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    Hey Mike!

    Ok, so when I had the co2 running I was dosing ADA's Green Brighty step 1 every day starting week 2. I dosed nothing the first week since the aquasoil is so jam packed with nutrients and my plants were melting faster than the Wicked Witch of the East with a face full of water. The step 1 is great for initial set up to month 3 as it helps promote new leaf growth. It is micro/trace nutrients. No need to be dosing anything with nitrogen at that point (which Easy Green has) as the aquasoil cycling adds more than enough to the water column, which I'm sure you're totally aware of at this point hehe. I added some iron 2-3 times per week.

    Once my cycle was complete (4-5 weeks after start up) my plants started getting hungry. I would only dose the Easy Green once, right after my water change at half or full dose (depending on my mood that day lol), then switch back to the Green Brighty every day, sometimes every other day with a dose of iron twice a week. The Aquarium co-op Easy Green is pretty potent so I would cut the dose in half in the beginning (for 20 gals, 1 pump instead of 2 for example). I would test my nitrates on day 3 after water change and dose to try to keep the nitrates between 10-20 ppm.

    Now that my co2 hasn't been running, I only dose half the Easy Green after water change, still keep with iron twice a week and dosing the micro/trace every other day. Still checking on my nitrates and dose to keep them between 10-20 ppm. Too low nitrates can cause algae issue too, from what I have read.

    You might be seeing the algae due to too much ferts. I'd cut back at half dose for now, and increase as your plant load does. How long are your lights running? I have mine turn on at 1pm and off at 9 pm (I like the look of the lit tank at night) and then it's on the blue moonlight the rest of the time.
     
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    Hi Jen, I hope you had a nice weekend and thanks for the reply.

    Thanks for all of the info, I will have to look into the Green Brighty and will also have to look into the iron supplement. Things are looking quite good over here, did another water change today - picked away at some of the hair algae and it cleaned up quite well. A pair of otos are on top of my list once my cycle finishes!

    Ammonia steady at 0ppm
    Nitrites seem to have dropped. They have been off the charts but seem to have come back down somewhere in the 2ppm range
    Nitrates were high, between 40/80ppm.
    These parameters were pre-water change tonight.

    Things are really looking good, my plants look healthy, and there is a little growth still taking place. I should have read up a little more on the Easy Green and ferts in general. I should have known 2 pumps twice a week of one product was too good to be true! Where do you buy your iron from?

    And my lights are the finnex planted+ 24/7 cc on the 24/7 mode. They kind of are on all day, just at different intensities. Upon researching a bit more though, I've just realized I can set a custom 24/7 lighting schedule. Will have to research a bit to see if anyone has found a good CO2/custom 24/7 light regiment for my particular fixture.

    Oh, and my GLA indicator solution came in and I replaced my amazon solution during my water change. Way better!! Still waiting on the regulator. Hope it comes soon I don't want Aquatek to back out of their refund offer. I figured I'd just wait it out with the current setup instead of being without CO2. Sorry Aquatek!;)

    Anyways, nice to hear from you and grab a few more bits to research on. How's your MTS going??

    Talk to you later
    Mike
     
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    Hey Mike :)

    Sounds like your cycle is coming along quite nicely! As far as the info on Easy Green is concerned, I researched it, and came up with confusing findings as at the time I purchased they had regular Easy Green and Nano Easy Green. I was watching Cory live on Youtube a while back and I had inquired about the difference between their regular Easy Green vs the Nano Easy Green as their website listed the ingredients as being the exact same....which didn't make sense to me. Luck had it, my question was answered during the live stream and it turns out the Nano EG is a watered down version of the regular. He also touched base on how potent the regular EG is and that dosing is something you have to dial in instead of taking package dosing to heart...which he also mentioned, goes for all other brands of ferts. How was a noob like myself supposed to know this??? I of course followed the bottle directions and grew a crap load of algae o_O

    As for the iron and nitrogen I use Seachem. You could probably substitute the ADA Green Brighty with Seachem's Trace. I ordered a bundle load of various sized medicine syringes on Amazon for measuring fert dosing and use a rubber band around my fert bottles to keep the syringes attached as to not mix them, reserving one clean 5 ml syringe for my water testing kit (beats the heck out of dipping, gathering too much, pouring some out, pouring more out, poured too much having to redip etc etc).

    I don't have experience with Finnex lights, but I see that you mentioned you can customize...which is a great feature! I'm using the Current Satellite Pro Plus. I purchased it because of the custom feature :) At 1 pm the sun rises for 15 minutes, then it runs at the setting I set it to (75% intensity) for 7.5 hours, then starts sundown for 15 minutes until the blue moonlight kicks on at 9pm. There's my 8 hours of light each day :)

    Hearing you get excited about your GLA regulator is making me think I may just stop being patient on waiting for their GLA Mini-ss paintball to hit the shelves and just get myself the GLA Gro paintball regulator. The thing that is stopping me is the Gro has a 3 year warranty...the mini-ss I'm waiting on has a 10 year warranty....SEVEN EXTRA YEARS...I feel I have no choice but to be patient for the extra 7 years on that warranty!!!

    My MTS is waiting on my walls being painted lol! We hired painters to do the ceilings and our entry way. Our home is open concept and the sheer span of the ceiling is just too much for me. With ceilings, once you start you can't stop and I can only imagine the pain in the neck I'd have after doing 2 coats. My entry way is 2 stories plus a peak which is about 27 feet tall. I'm only 5 feet tall...I mean, 5 feet short...there's noooo way I'm painting that. I'm painting everything else though, just need the ceilings done first :D

    Have a great day Mike!
    Talk soon
    Jen
     

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