Nitrates through the roof.. water change frequency

a small water change every other day is doable but not wise so everyday is out of the question...an expert may be able to do it but you said u were new right? i would do a 30% water change in 3 days and then another a week from then. also put in and change out algone or a similar product every other day.
 
build a refugium. it's always a good thing to have. i don't know how you change even 100 gallons of water. where do you keep it and mix it? you probably need at least half of the day to do it. i would just go on with the regular maintenence, because to make a difference in nitrate levels with the water changes is almost impossible, unless you constantly flush the system with new water. high nitrates could be possibly due to overstocking and overfeeding. in your case the tank wasn't taken care of for some time. if that's the case, then with normal care of the tank the nitrates will drop down with time. there are also nitrate reactors, but for that size tank they would be costly and i never tryed one to tell you how well they work. i hope someone with huge tank shows up to help you, because ... :thud:
 
build a refugium. it's always a good thing to have. i don't know how you change even 100 gallons of water. where do you keep it and mix it? you probably need at least half of the day to do it. i would just go on with the regular maintenence, because to make a difference in nitrate levels with the water changes is almost impossible, unless you constantly flush the system with new water. high nitrates could be possibly due to overstocking and overfeeding. in your case the tank wasn't taken care of for some time. if that's the case, then with normal care of the tank the nitrates will drop down with time. there are also nitrate reactors, but for that size tank they would be costly and i never tryed one to tell you how well they work. i hope someone with huge tank shows up to help you, because ... :thud:

Well... I have a huge vat (I'll take a picture.) that holds 100+gallons.... and I fill it with ro water, add salt mix, and I have a pump in the vat that keeps the water moving to help with the mixing.. and a heater to keep the temp up... I usually let it sit overnight...

I could go to my LFS (not the jerks who screwed up my tank in the first place!!! ) , and ask for 300 gallons of saltwater and have them deliver it.... and I could do it all in one shot.. if you think that will be better... I am doing a good cleaning... once a week and I feed my fish every other day... I feed just enough where some falls to the sand and rocks for the shrimp and crabs.... (Not much)....
I am losing a fish or two every couple of days... just lost a clown and a flame angel...
I have had some fish die and they had been eaten before I had a chance to take them out of the tank... (Those crabs are fast !!!)

How big a refugium would I need?

If the Nitrates aren't killing my fish what else could it be... PH 8.3 , Nitrites 0, Amonia 0..... getting even more confused now...

I will have a realtime hi-res video camera up in the next day or so with a link so you guys (And girls) can log in and check out the tank, you'll be able to zoom in and out, tilt and pan, and really check out my tank so maybe you can get an idea of what's going on....

Thank you all for your input... I will keep you updated....
 
I will have a realtime hi-res video camera up in the next day or so with a link so you guys (And girls) can log in and check out the tank, you'll be able to zoom in and out, tilt and pan, and really check out my tank so maybe you can get an idea of what's going on....

Are you full of money? Care to share it with me?

Lol just kidding. Just seems like all this stuff would cost ALOT.

Very nice tank thou!
 
That's quite large! I can only imagine what I'd do with a tank that size!

Unfortunately, a 10% water change doesn't do much for reducing nutrient concentrations. For example, if your nitrates are 50 ppm, a 10% water change would only lower the concentration to 45 ppm. The next one would take it down to 40 - 41 ppm, the one after that down to roughly 37 ppm, and the next one down to roughly 33 ppm -- and that's only if no source of NO3 is added to the tank in between the water changes. Nonetheless, unless your NO3 is much higher than most of us could imagine, the majority of fish can tolerate it. You'd actually see problems with your invertebrates before your fish if NO3 was high enough to be deadly.

When did you first notice the NO3 reading to be that high -- before the fish died, or after? If it was after, it would be a bit more understandable, as the recently departed were probably sizeable and starting to decay a little before being removed (adding NH3 which was broken down to NO3).

I'd seriously consider adding a refugium to your system with some macro algae. With all that space under the tank, I'd hope you still have a little room leftover to install one without much trouble. :)

To be honest.. I just starting testing and working on the tank myself... but I've been losing fish for a while... and my lfs guy would tell me that's normal with a tank your size and when introducing fish some will die...
but once I got rid of him and started testing.. I noticed that the levels where really high... then I joined here and started reading and researching and I now know...it's not normal to lose 1 -2 fish a week... something is def wrong with my tank... so... I'm trying to figure out what and fix it...
 
Are you full of money? Care to share it with me?

Lol just kidding. Just seems like all this stuff would cost ALOT.

Very nice tank thou!

I am doing okay.... and believe me... this to me is not about showing off my money.... It started out as a stautus thing... big tank , nice fish to look at while sipping wine and smoking a nice cigar with friends... but then it "Bit" me... hard... and I love these little guys.... I can sit and watch a crab switch shells for like an hour.... lol!!! I can watch my clown bring food to his host and fight off anyone who tries to take the food.... it's awesome....
So now... I take the losses personally... I don't care about what the fish or coral cost...it just hurts to lose them...
So to be honest... I have no problem spending if it will get my tank healthy and that's all that matters to me....

BTW- I was setting up the camera so I could sit at work and watch my guys all day long... !!!! LOL!
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Test Kits

One more question.... I purchased 3 different test kits...
I have 2 liquid tests and 1 strip test... they are all giving me different readings... the 2 liquids are pretty close but the strip.. is totally different...

Which is the most reliable? Which is the mostly used?
 
One more question.... I purchased 3 different test kits...
I have 2 liquid tests and 1 strip test... they are all giving me different readings... the 2 liquids are pretty close but the strip.. is totally different...

Which is the most reliable? Which is the mostly used?

As far as possible, I would stay clear of test strips ... FWIW, the liquid tests are far more accurate than the strips.

Regards,
Yash
 
As far as possible, I would stay clear of test strips ... FWIW, the liquid tests are far more accurate than the strips.

Regards,
Yash

What do you think of American Marine Pinpoint Monitors?????

ANYONE?
 
What do you think of American Marine Pinpoint Monitors?????

ANYONE?


Well.. I researched and read some pretty disappointing reviews.... alot of people calling them junk!!!!! So.... I am just going to go with Sailfert test kits.... they have gotten the best reviews... hope I'm right... Thanks.

Btw- I also looked at this; Hach Saltwater Aquaculture Test Kit .. anyone know about them... much more expensive but alot of the test are digital.. Easier interpretation!!!
 
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