Nitrite poisoning help
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From what I understand Amquel converts the ammonia into a form not as readily usable by the bacteria in the tank, therefore slowing down the establishment of the nitrogen cycle. TKOS, if everybody had the time to do a 50% water change on their tanks every day or even every other day your argument would hold true. However, I don't think your taking into account the fact that your going to be adding chemicals to your tank anyways because of the dechlor you would HAVE to add to keep from killing your fish. In a perfect world maybe chemicals wouldn't be necessary but I don't believe not using them in this case would be measurably better.
Karnaaj said:From what I understand Amquel converts the ammonia into a form not as readily usable by the bacteria in the tank, therefore slowing down the establishment of the nitrogen cycle.
That is not correct; the complexed ammonia (after treatment with Amquel) is accessible to nitrifying bacteria.
Jim
I don't have to do water changes every day as my tank is cycled. I do them once a week. But when a tank is cycling and you have fish in it, it is your duty to keep those fish safe. Since it is short term, daily water changes are not hard. It takes me 15 minutes to change 50% of my tank water. I can do that for the health of my fish.
Hey, use what you want but even with Amquel, daily water changes are going to be needed to deal with "nitrite".
Hey, use what you want but even with Amquel, daily water changes are going to be needed to deal with "nitrite".
Prime detoxifies nitrite quite well. And you didn't address the issue of all the dechlor you have to use to do all those water changes while the tank is being established.
My misunderstanding Jim. I had been told from various sources that Amquel was not the equivalent of Prime. What is the dosage? I am wondering if it is as economical as Prime.
My misunderstanding Jim. I had been told from various sources that Amquel was not the equivalent of Prime. What is the dosage? I am wondering if it is as economical as Prime.
A basic dechlorinator (sodium thiosulfate in a 1% solution) is completely non toxic in even high doses.
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/water/chlorine.shtml
Also, if your water contains just chlroine, as mine does, it is simply a matter of aging your water. I have been using the same bottle of dechorlintor (Wardley's) for 2 years now.
And hey, if you want to spend your money on Prime and even if everyone else wants to spend their money on Prime then that is cool. But you speak as it is the best and only option. It seems to me that a simpler option is water changes, but hey that is what I like. And besides if the tank is unbalanced and producing nitrites one does of Prime isn't going to cut it. You will still need to be dosing it as the nitrites climb. So either way you are doing work on the tank everyday while the bacteria catches up. 15 minutes still doesn't seem that long to me.
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/water/chlorine.shtml
Also, if your water contains just chlroine, as mine does, it is simply a matter of aging your water. I have been using the same bottle of dechorlintor (Wardley's) for 2 years now.
And hey, if you want to spend your money on Prime and even if everyone else wants to spend their money on Prime then that is cool. But you speak as it is the best and only option. It seems to me that a simpler option is water changes, but hey that is what I like. And besides if the tank is unbalanced and producing nitrites one does of Prime isn't going to cut it. You will still need to be dosing it as the nitrites climb. So either way you are doing work on the tank everyday while the bacteria catches up. 15 minutes still doesn't seem that long to me.
Well, its been a few days, and my fish are alive and well! everyone is breathing normally now and seems to be happy. For the record, the AmQuel was i think about 10$ canadian for about 200ml, and the dose is 5ml per 10gal every 24 hours until the nitrite/ammonia/nitrate is stable at 0...it also removes chlorine/chloramine.....
oh, does anyone have any opinions about this: i currently have loaches and a pleco, which apparently prefer neutral pH....i wanted to get a few mollies, but they prefer slightly alkaline. What do you guys think? would they be ok with neutral or should i avoid them altogether?
oh, does anyone have any opinions about this: i currently have loaches and a pleco, which apparently prefer neutral pH....i wanted to get a few mollies, but they prefer slightly alkaline. What do you guys think? would they be ok with neutral or should i avoid them altogether?
Mollies are generally very tolerant fish and as long as you slowly aclimate them to a new tank they seem to be a fish capable of living in a large variety of conditions. It probably isn't the perfect setup for them but will work.
Before adding anything to your tank I would give it at least a week of stability by itself.
Before adding anything to your tank I would give it at least a week of stability by itself.
