Not sure if this is Ich

BioFilter said:
Then I am getting conflicting information. According to www.loaches.com,

Clown Loaches
Distribution: Sumatra and Borneo
Length: Up to 12in (30cm)
Diet: Worms, crustaceans, plant matter,and dried food
Water temperature: 75-86 F (24-30 C)
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Until I move the dojo's, if I raise the temp, the dojo's will suffer, if I lower it, the clowns will not like it. Are you suggesting I raise the temp?

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Should I raise the temp to 78F?
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This information on loaches online is correct because those are the temperatures they survive at. Ideal you will want their aqurium water to be at 80 degrees. I would not raise the temperature past 76 derees untill you can get the dojos in to their own tank...mind you you will have to do this ASAP! I would leave things the way they are, watch for signs of parasites, and start shoping for a new aquarium.
 
To repeat, I have the same problem. NO sand in tank. Temp is at or around 81 F. Water prams are normal, Amonia=0, nitrite=0, nitrate=5. Feed small amounts 3 times a day, alternate between flake, Hikari algea wafers, Wardly shrimp pellets, and Tubefix worms (cubes, also by Wardly) water changes= 30% every other day, IE 3 times a week. I use prime for water changes. No visible symptoms other than alot of flashing.
 
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Shagmaster said:
To repeat, I have the same problem. NO sand in tank. Temp is at or around 81 F. Water prams are normal, Amonia=0, nitrite=0, nitrate=5. Feed small amounts 3 times a day, alternate between flake, Hikari algea wafers, Wardly shrimp pellets, and Tubefix worms (cubes, also by Wardly) water changes= 30% every other day, IE 3 times a week. I use prime for water changes. No visible symptoms other than alot of flashing.
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Aside from sand and feeding, your tank is like mine. How long have your fish been doing this? What is the Ph? If your tank is at 81F, Im sure if it was ich, it would be visible. Maybe we can zero in on this.
 
Shagmaster said:
To repeat, I have the same problem. NO sand in tank. Temp is at or around 81 F. Water prams are normal, Amonia=0, nitrite=0, nitrate=5. Feed small amounts 3 times a day, alternate between flake, Hikari algea wafers, Wardly shrimp pellets, and Tubefix worms (cubes, also by Wardly) water changes= 30% every other day, IE 3 times a week. I use prime for water changes. No visible symptoms other than alot of flashing.
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In your case it might be a reaction to very frequent water changes. Some of the species in your tank are very sensitive to any kind of changes. Do the fish flash violently or just a little bit?
 
Ok, I have set up a 10 gal tank to temporarily house the dojo's. I stress the word 'temporarily', I need to shop around for a used 30/40 gal tank. I have funds issues, meaning I'm not rich. This tank is in an un-used room that stays around 50 F, so the dojo's will like it. Then I can bump up the main tank to 80F and watch for signs of parasites.

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On my main tank, I do about a 30/40% water change every 8 to 10 days. I also removed a small rock. It was colorful with red in it, maybe it had something in it. It didn't sizzle when I tested it last summer.
 
Fish have been doing this off and on for about a month and a half. PH is like 7.8 or higher, my test only goes that high. I do frequent water changes to keep the PH levels in the tank stable with the tap water. I am running 2 HOB filters (whisper, and a penguin 200 w/biofilter soon to have a 10 gal wet/dry sump.

Edit= Fish flash violently sometimes, mostly they flash against a rock or plant in passing. Tanks been at 81 degrees for about 3 weeks.
 
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Shagmaster, do you have natural rocks in your tank? What kind of ornaments do you keep and do you ever add salt? Also, what kind of fish are doing this? Mine are cory cats, dojo's, and clown loaches. Another similarity is that I use Prime.

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Just read your sig on the kinds of fish.
 
All the roocks in my tank are granite and asorted round river rocks (small)
 
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