oh, 80gJoe I have a ?

Those are the conditions that you should aim for, as discus are very 'picky' about their water conditions.
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i thought discus were very picky about water quality. ive never kept them or looked into keeping them, but all our LFS's have restrictions and disclaimers regarding the discus sales.

john smith kept discus??!! wow! he really was a great pioneer! i wonder what size of tank he and pocahontas kept?
 
Degree of 'Pickyness'

Getting and using R/O water certainly seems to help, but I'm not sure it's a requirement. Ph's of 7 and lower are good. Higher temps are needed. Weekly (at least), water changes are needed and 30% to 50% is fine..

They'll eat most all foods, Beefheart, BloodWorms, Brine, Tetra Color Bits, other flake food..

And, a good diatom filter used after water changes is nice..

With that, what is the pickyness degree? I'd mention, not nearly as complicated as a saltwater set-up. Before getting Discus they seemed to have a mysterious and complex way of keeping them...

:)
 
thats the way the lfs here makes them out to be. they make it seem that its near impossible to ever get the water quality perfect for them and, even if you do, that you'd never be able to maintain it.
 
10 And None.

I counted 10 LFS's and none had quality Discus. Only recently did one of them carry decent Discus. Another store mentioned he can't keep them in stock... I've noticed this over about a years time visiting different stores here.
 
"IF" I decideto go with Discus I will either have to go to Pets**** or have a LFS order them for me. The only problem I have with getting them ordered here is that I really won't know what I am getting until they come in. But I can't afford to go online and order them because of the shipping cost involved (2 hour drive to the nearest airport).

I have to get my CO2 going and get my pH stable first. Right now I am slowly raising my KH from 1.2 d/kh to at least 3. I only at 2.23 d/kh at the moment. Hopefully I will get all the parts in this week and will have it up and running by next weekend at the latest.
 
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