ok- I got 'em!

[Star_Rider]

Unlike Blue rams Bolivian rams are a bit more difficult to sex.

the extended rays on the dorsal is sometime effective as the 3rd ray etc. the real tell tale way is the ovipositor.

there is not rally much color difference between the male and female. the males do tend to be larger.

there is a good thread in the cichlid forum re bolivian rams if you need more info.

 

[noodles62]

I will check it out! Thanks Star_rider........

 

[noodles62]

Well, I did more research and observing and I do believe I have 2 males. I will be calling the LFS when they open and see if they will trade one out for me. I hope they will cuz the meaker one of the two does not even get to eat due to the bully. Will post pics later......