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80-100 cm should be fine in Italy, unless you're at a very high elevation.

If you post pictures of your turtles, I can tell you for sure whether you have an elegans. I just need to see the side of the head and the plastron (bottom shell).
 
Sorry but camera is pretty bad.The seller said that it was a hybrid, if it is a hybrid one of the parents is an elegans since it has red "ears"
 
A pure T. s. elegans will have straight ear stripes, like this:

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Most intergrades I have seen have forked stripes, like T. s. scripta, but with reddish coloration.

Also, T. s. elegans of all ages have black markings on every scute of the plastron, like this:

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Intergrades will have fewer markings.
 
The size and color of the stripe on T. s. elegans are variable. Sometimes it's yellow with just an orange tint in the center, and sometimes it's bright red all the way through.

The shape of the stripe is a better guide to subspecies; is it just a simple straight stripe, like in the picture, or is the shape more like the stripe on the T. s. scripta?
 
I would say that it is probably a pure T. s. elegans, unless the seller knew for sure that it was an intergrade and wasn't just guessing.

There's also a small chance that it is T. s. troosti, the Cumberland slider. They look much like red-ears but have orange ear stripes instead of red, broader light stripes on the underside of the throat, and smudgy, often hollow-centered spots on the plastron. I don't think they're very common in the pet trade.
 
do you have a picture of a troosti? because i searched for images and under some of the ones that said troosti there was a picture that looked exactly like the one i have
 
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