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But when they die in nature it is natural causes predators (kind of like people eating meat) or old age, most of the time!! Not because some human threw them in a box and couldn't properly care for it. I'm startin to thing you are a young kid who does not realise how the world wroks, survival of the fittest, in nature it is this way also. I am above an animal in the food chain. For sake of not breaking the rules here I can explain this in greater detail thru PM if you would like, you obviously have little education on how we where created and why we are the way we are.
Daaday: IF you wold have read my WHOLE post right at the bottom I wrote that i do not think fish keeping is cruel. please read my whole post before you say something like that it only adds to the apperance that you are only interested in one side of the discussion and not even open enough to read a persons whole thought on the topic.
What I DO want to know is what gives you guys the right to decide what is okay to kill and what is not. You have both killed fish due to your own fault (we all have) so how can you say it's cruel for me to kill animals, at least they are put to use as food, unlike the fish you have killed. Where is the exact line as to what should and shouldn't be eaten, what is cruel and what is not, and how you make these decisions?
Daaday: IF you wold have read my WHOLE post right at the bottom I wrote that i do not think fish keeping is cruel. please read my whole post before you say something like that it only adds to the apperance that you are only interested in one side of the discussion and not even open enough to read a persons whole thought on the topic.
What I DO want to know is what gives you guys the right to decide what is okay to kill and what is not. You have both killed fish due to your own fault (we all have) so how can you say it's cruel for me to kill animals, at least they are put to use as food, unlike the fish you have killed. Where is the exact line as to what should and shouldn't be eaten, what is cruel and what is not, and how you make these decisions?
Also fish have been proven to have a central nervous system which means they have feelings. Google is your friend my young friend!!!
I decided to become a vegetarian for ethical reasons at the age of eight. It's really not that big of a deal. And contrary to the less educated opinions voiced in this thread on this matter, my health has not suffered as a result of this choice, my brain has not shriveled, and I actually am quite a fatty. Stating that all vegetarians are waifish hippies is like broadly noting that all omnivores are paragons of health.
That said, I seriously don't see the point in banning horse slaughter. I love horses, I have a horse, I've ridden since I was three, and obviously since I don't eat any meat the concept of eating horse meat is a bit unsettling to me. But I fail to see how it's any different than eating any other meat. Take pigs, for example. Some studies have indicated that domestic swine are able to reason as well as a three year old child. Chickens are quite personable in small numbers. Cows can be perfectly delightful and all of them have the same capacity for pain. A pet is nothing more than an animal that an individual or a society values more than another. Pets are a relative thing from culture to culture, and even from household to household. It's a bit absurd to ban the slaughter of one animal then go home to barbecue another.
That said, I seriously don't see the point in banning horse slaughter. I love horses, I have a horse, I've ridden since I was three, and obviously since I don't eat any meat the concept of eating horse meat is a bit unsettling to me. But I fail to see how it's any different than eating any other meat. Take pigs, for example. Some studies have indicated that domestic swine are able to reason as well as a three year old child. Chickens are quite personable in small numbers. Cows can be perfectly delightful and all of them have the same capacity for pain. A pet is nothing more than an animal that an individual or a society values more than another. Pets are a relative thing from culture to culture, and even from household to household. It's a bit absurd to ban the slaughter of one animal then go home to barbecue another.
not really the same thing. In nature animals are eating animals that are born naturally and by eating them they are just keeping the food cycle going. When a human eats an animal its because that animal was born just to die. I personally would rather be born in the wild and have a chance at having a future, instead of being born in captivity jsut for the sake of dying
Modern animals are domesticated and farmed, they've been brought up to be like those cows in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe which walks up to your table and politely asks which part of it would you like to eat.
To be honest, the animals which are bred in captivity would have to idea of any better living (as far as I know). It's natural for us omnivores to eat red, white, whatever colour meat but the major gripe is wastage of the food and unecessary slaughtering of meat which isn't going to be eaten, that's going to go off and then be thrown out behind the super-market.
I think that being a vegetarian is good, if it's your choice. If you were brought up a meat-eater but turned vegetarian, good on you, but what if you were born a vegetarian and had never tried meat? It's not your choice then and, (this isn't what I was building up to) like being born in the wild you should have the choice of having a future as either a herbivore/omnivore/carnivore...
That didn't finish how I meant it to, never does =S
To be honest, the animals which are bred in captivity would have to idea of any better living (as far as I know). It's natural for us omnivores to eat red, white, whatever colour meat but the major gripe is wastage of the food and unecessary slaughtering of meat which isn't going to be eaten, that's going to go off and then be thrown out behind the super-market.
I think that being a vegetarian is good, if it's your choice. If you were brought up a meat-eater but turned vegetarian, good on you, but what if you were born a vegetarian and had never tried meat? It's not your choice then and, (this isn't what I was building up to) like being born in the wild you should have the choice of having a future as either a herbivore/omnivore/carnivore...
That didn't finish how I meant it to, never does =S
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