so is it nitrites that are high or nitrates?? either way if they are high out the tap, whats the purpose of doing a wc??
co2 is co2 but the amount of co2 you get from a diy is no where near the same as pressurized.
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so is it nitrites that are high or nitrates?? either way if they are high out the tap, whats the purpose of doing a wc??
co2 is co2 but the amount of co2 you get from a diy is no where near the same as pressurized.
I was advised that in order to succesfully raise DD blacks, I need to keep the water quality up. And the best way to do that is a PWC every other day. It's worked so far.
Thanks
Charles
Thanks
Charles
yee but i dont see 40-50% as partial really.. most of the time when someone says partial water changes its about 10-20%.. 40-50% is a regular water change and if done so often, can throw off the water parameters..
Either way i would add carbon/purigen or any other chemical filtration to get rid of the nitrite in the tank. Since from the information you gave us, the water parameter is what sticks out the most as to what caused your fish to show weird behavior.
Either way i would add carbon/purigen or any other chemical filtration to get rid of the nitrite in the tank. Since from the information you gave us, the water parameter is what sticks out the most as to what caused your fish to show weird behavior.
I do have carbon in the XP2. Haven't replaced it in over a month. I'll change it tomorrow. I usually add 16 - 18 gallons of water at the WC. I've complained to the
EP water district about the Nitrites, so far to no avail.
Thank you
Charles
EP water district about the Nitrites, so far to no avail.
Thank you
Charles
If you can get your hands on Purigen it will help you alot more than carbon. It lasts longer and can be recharged.
Charles with DD black Angels I assume it is a good idea to do water changes at least 3 X per week.
they are probably the most difficult strain to raise. and are sensitive to water conditions.
it is not uncommon to see breeders do this size water change daily.
that said. if you suspect the added CO2 given the DD blacks are sensitive. they may be reacting to the added CO2. since you added the extra and noticed issues i would remove the extra and watch what happens. the DD Blacks may be reacting to the extra CO2.
I doubt the water is over saturated but it does appear to have an adverse affect on your fish.
they are probably the most difficult strain to raise. and are sensitive to water conditions.
it is not uncommon to see breeders do this size water change daily.
that said. if you suspect the added CO2 given the DD blacks are sensitive. they may be reacting to the added CO2. since you added the extra and noticed issues i would remove the extra and watch what happens. the DD Blacks may be reacting to the extra CO2.
I doubt the water is over saturated but it does appear to have an adverse affect on your fish.
Star
Thank you for your input. I'll pull one bottle now.
I also get up around midnight and start an airstone in the tank.
I will put a timer on the air pump today and run it for a few hours before dawn.
How long do you think I'll have to keep up the 3X WC's?
I was told to keep it up till they are silver dollar sized.
Thank you
Charles
Thank you for your input. I'll pull one bottle now.
I also get up around midnight and start an airstone in the tank.
I will put a timer on the air pump today and run it for a few hours before dawn.
How long do you think I'll have to keep up the 3X WC's?
I was told to keep it up till they are silver dollar sized.
Thank you
Charles
you can try to taper off at that size .
these are smaller than quarter size? if so they are pretty young still
I have a hard color morph to maintain too a black / green..found out they are sensitive after I got them.
I am down to 1 50% + water change every 6 days. I found the female sensitive to CO2 and now have her in a low maint tank. with a marble male.
these are smaller than quarter size? if so they are pretty young still
I have a hard color morph to maintain too a black / green..found out they are sensitive after I got them.
I am down to 1 50% + water change every 6 days.
I found the female sensitive to CO2 and now have her in a low maint tank. with a marble male.
summing up where we're at...
So, 2g of DIY in a 46g tank - exactly what I have, I've not gotten over 30PPM yet (according to my drop checker). I agree that NO2 is more likely the culprit.
Prime added to the replacement water and/or some purigen (a.k.a. Zeolite) in the filter will address this. I think Prime is the better solution to the problem as it won't starve the nitrosomonas colony of its NO2 like zeolite will. Adding some live plants, if you don;t already have some, will also help soften any NH3/NO2/NO3 spikes you may encounter.
Water change schedule - one good change/vac. per week should be adequate once the NO2 is under control, even for DD angels.
If you're still spooked by chart calculations (which are inherently inaccurate because you have more than carbonate contributing to the hardness of aquarium water), get a drop checker and/or have an air pump & airstone on a timer set to run when the lights are off - until an hour or two before they come back on.
So, 2g of DIY in a 46g tank - exactly what I have, I've not gotten over 30PPM yet (according to my drop checker). I agree that NO2 is more likely the culprit.
Prime added to the replacement water and/or some purigen (a.k.a. Zeolite) in the filter will address this. I think Prime is the better solution to the problem as it won't starve the nitrosomonas colony of its NO2 like zeolite will. Adding some live plants, if you don;t already have some, will also help soften any NH3/NO2/NO3 spikes you may encounter.
Water change schedule - one good change/vac. per week should be adequate once the NO2 is under control, even for DD angels.
If you're still spooked by chart calculations (which are inherently inaccurate because you have more than carbonate contributing to the hardness of aquarium water), get a drop checker and/or have an air pump & airstone on a timer set to run when the lights are off - until an hour or two before they come back on.
Thanks you Star rider & Squawkbert
I got these July 2nd & the bodies were nickle size. The largest are now larger thatn a silver dollar. 6 1/2 tall fin to fin.
I also store my water in the same sized jugs and use prime when I fill the jugs.
I like them a lot but I cn tell I'm in for a test..
Charles
I got these July 2nd & the bodies were nickle size. The largest are now larger thatn a silver dollar. 6 1/2 tall fin to fin.
I also store my water in the same sized jugs and use prime when I fill the jugs.
I like them a lot but I cn tell I'm in for a test..
Charles
