Overnight cloudiness........(and intro) - Help.

Nice set-up...
And a whole lotta room under the tank for a Rena xP-3 canister filter, and ..........
 
3 of the 8 lived 3 more days

Where the heck were you while that killing field was taking place right in your living room?Rather than talking about the cloudiness in your made-by-your grandpa tank,go back to the very first few steps to keep your hobby away from hurting any living things in this world.Do we so called Aquarists feel what our fish feel in terror?I believe we do.
 
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Let me guess......

The above post has to do with "feeder Goldfish" ?

Did I guess right??


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Re: 3 of the 8 lived 3 more days

Originally posted by erico56
Where the heck were you while that killing field was taking place right in your living room?Rather than talking about the cloudiness in your made-by-your grandpa tank,go back to the very first few steps to keep your hobby away from hurting any living things in this world.Do we so called Aquarists feel what our fish feel in terror?I believe we do.




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Do we have a nutball on our hands here? What the heck are you rambling about? I too am guessing you are whining about the feeder fish Gulp occassionally enjoys. I don't remember signing some contract to keep from hurting "any living things in this world" when I set up my aquarium.... :rolleyes: I did promise myself to take care of Gulp to the best of my abilities. I eat cows, pigs, chickens, deer, and anything else I choose to........Gulp enjoys eating HIS natural prey (granted, goldfish are specifically "natural" to him) occassionally too....and will CONTINUE to get "treats" once in a while. Go stand on your PETA soapbox elsewhere please....... :rolleyes:

Hell.....if you want to whine about feeding goldfish to an Oscar, it can easily be argued that YOU as an aquarist are CRUEL.......do you think ANY fish wants to be locked up in some small aquarium when they could be swimming freely in some stream or pond or lake??? Why do YOU feel the need to keep them in captivity??? Get a life....... :rolleyes:
 
Sorry to hijack this:

what are you planning on doing with your 55 gallon? That is a beautiful display, your grandfather has an amazing talent.


PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.
 
Originally posted by Lauren
Sorry to hijack this:

what are you planning on doing with your 55 gallon? That is a beautiful display, your grandfather has an amazing talent.


PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.

I gave the 55 to my brother. He wants to go salt...... The guy has never owned an aquarium though and will not listen to my advice to start simple. I just hope he doesn't flush a bunch of money down the drain. :eek:
 
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I gave the 55 to my brother. He wants to go salt...... The guy has never owned an aquarium though and will not listen to my advice to start simple. I just hope he doesn't flush a bunch of money down the drain. :eek:

Well, when his aquarium fails and he gives up, send me a pm. That would be a nice one to have.
 
Originally posted by erico56
Where the heck were you while that killing field was taking place right in your living room?Rather than talking about the cloudiness in your made-by-your grandpa tank,go back to the very first few steps to keep your hobby away from hurting any living things in this world.Do we so called Aquarists feel what our fish feel in terror?I believe we do.

play nice, erico. :mad:

there is NO need for that here.

nice stand and tank, gulp! someday when i have more time and patience i might want to attempt something like that. even my "display" tank is somewhat utilitarian as my breeding adventures sort of are at odds with having something "pretty".

not to climb on erico's soapbox, but as food for thought. skipping the moral and ethical concerns, using live feeders is bad, unless you raise them yourself. i have kept several fish that would *only* eat them myself and personally i have found it a pain to be a slave to the pet store. beyond that, they have very little nutritional value and are likely to carry a good chance of infection for your oscar. usually the ones raised to be "feeders" are treated very poorly and so, often they will come with diseases due to the conditions they are kept in. another consideration to also keep in mind, is oscars are very susceptable to HiTH disease. to prevent this you will want to feed a varied diet and possibly even use vitamin supplement. another small point i have personally noticed, they seem to raise the aggression levels in fish. it seemed like there was alot more aggression in my tanks when i had a higher percentage of feeders used, myself.......

not to preach, just food for thought.

good luck, and again, nice tank. :)
 
Thanks for the advice ewok. :D I rarely, maybe once every month, or once every two months give Gulp live food. The risk of disease from the nasty tanks they usually keep feeders in is not worth it to me. The only reason those feeders where in the aquarium this time was I my small attempt to let them get the tank ready for Gulp and possible speed up the new tanks cycle. I got impatient and only gave them a week to do their job though.

Like you mentioned, before I knew better and was feeding my other oscars live food, they became very agressive. Gulp is agressive enough as it is. He jumps out of the aquarium when he sees me putting his pellets in...... I do need to start varying his food intake a bit. Up until a few weeks ago, I had not even heard of hole in the head disease.......and I have had 4 oscars. I am embarassed that I did not read up on them enough in the past..... :( After the reading I have been doing, HITH seems pretty common, and Gulp seems to have a few spots at this time. I am going to start the vitamins this week and purchase some medication.

Thanks again for the advice. :D
 
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