WTB Pacific Tree Frogs/assorted native CA frogs - Long Beach CA shipping

[MudskipperFan]

Hey, if any of you have a tadpole problem or have a lot of frogs/tadpoles in your garden or something like that and you happen to live in southern CA then I would like it if you could ship a few (maybe 10-20 if they're tadpoles, 2-6 if they're adults) of them to me for my pond. You could ship them in a box or you could drive to my house and drop them off. Bonus points if frogs are full grown or if the tadpoles are healthy/large.

 

[MudskipperFan]

bump

 

[captmicha]

I'm pretty sure you're not getting a reply because what you're asking is illegal.

 

[Vicious_Fish]

I'm pretty sure you're not getting a reply because what you're asking is illegal.

....and the fact that you don't want to introduce another non-native species to your area. That's a big no-no.

 

[MudskipperFan]

Oh, I thought that pacific tree frogs already lived in southern CA.

 

[Kashta]

I'm pretty sure you're not getting a reply because what you're asking is illegal.

Oh, I thought that pacific tree frogs already lived in southern CA.

They do, MSF, but the State you live in won't allow you to keep one as a pet.

I did some checking to find out some information on this... then looked a little further for more detail.

For further reading, look for care sheets about green tree frogs. Their care should be similar, and the care sheets will be more abundant as green tree frogs are commonly sold as pets, while pacific tree frogs are not typically sold in stores as it is usually illegal (at least in CA) to sell native animals as pets.

http://www.wikihow.com/Care-for-a-Pacific-Tree-Frog

Miscellaneous Facts:

They live in the West Coast forest wetlands, from Baja California on up into Canada. While they are usually thought of as coastal, they actually have a range that extends as far east as western Montana.

The male Pacific Tree frog can be distinguished by the darker throat. All that puffing of the skin makes it get lots of friction, which causes it to get darker.

Another bit of info that might be interesting is that it is illegal to keep these animals as pets without a license - and from what one of my readers tells me, it's nearly impossible to get a license to do so. It can carry a pretty hefty fine. "I spent many hours trying to find someone in the state governemnt who could tell me how to get a license. Finally talked to someone at Fish and Wildlife who told me that no such license existed unless I was a university. Then he started to threaten me." Yikes! So, enjoy these guys in the wild, but don't bring them home!

http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/species/pacific.html

a. BANS

Fourteen states have complete bans on at least most of the pets considered exotic. In essence, a ban entirely prohibits private possession of captive wildlife, unlike other regulations which only limit or condition private ownership.

California is one such state with a ban on exotic pets. Its law makes it “unlawful to import, transport, or possess alive animals restricted in subsection (c) below except under permit issued by the Department of Fish and Game.” Cal. Code Regs. tit. 14 §671(a) (2004).

While this at first seems to be a permitting scheme rather than a ban, the conditions for permitting by the Department only apply to commercial, research, and educational entities, and no permits are granted for private pet ownership. § 671.1(b)(1).

The ban applies to not only transportation or importation into the state, but also covers the simple possession of such animals.

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ddusexoticpets.htm#III

(11) Transgenic Aquatic Animals.

Includes freshwater and marine fishes, invertebrates, crustaceans, mollusks, amphibians, and reptiles (D).

Note: Unpermitted transgenic aquatic animals are determined to be detrimental to native wildlife, therefore the exemption provided for in Fish and Game Code Section 2150(e) is not applicable.

http://www.animallaw.info/administrative/adusca14ccrs671.htm

We can't allow sale threads here that solicit illegal species.

Thread closed.