Pathetic...

Dude was tripping out on the musk of his newfound power. Hardly an excuse.

When a cop dies in the line of duty, it's incredibly tragic, but they went to work that day knowing the risks that come with the job. The innocent people who get killed for no reason don't have that luxury. Granted, it doesn't happen that often, but the fact that just from my city, I can name 4 instances from the past 10 years, it happens entirely TOO often. Maybe the whole point is that decisions that end in someone losing their life shouldn't take a split second. Sorry, but if "i though that he had a gun" doesn't work for the rest of us, it shouldn't work for them either.
 
Whatever happened to police officers being civil servants? Isnt that what it all basically boils down to? Did the officer serve the public in this situation?
 
Lol... Sorry Chill, missed it by a month or two.
 
Inka4040 said:
Dude was tripping out on the musk of his newfound power. Hardly an excuse.

When a cop dies in the line of duty, it's incredibly tragic, but they went to work that day knowing the risks that come with the job. The innocent people who get killed for no reason don't have that luxury. Granted, it doesn't happen that often, but the fact that just from my city, I can name 4 instances from the past 10 years, it happens entirely TOO often. Maybe the whole point is that decisions that end in someone losing their life shouldn't take a split second. Sorry, but if "i though that he had a gun" doesn't work for the rest of us, it shouldn't work for them either.
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4 in the last 10 years versus how many cops killed in the last 10 yrs? I'm sure cops killed out number innocents killed.

Innocents are going to die, nobody is perfect.Its basically war in our local areas. Considering how many encounters there are per cop per day I'd say 4 in 10 years are great odds.
I don't know the details of your deaths but I'd love to read them. We have innocent deaths down here also but in at least 2 of the cases guns were found near or on the person.

I'm done...You obviously have a hatred towards cops for whatever reason.
I've been arrested a number of times. Some cops were cool and didn't bother handcuffing me, others decided I needed tough love. Was always the young guns that thought tough love was the way to go to scare me straight. Never was beat or anything like that but handled rougher then needed. Never been convicted of anything and never spent more then a night in jail so its not like I'm was a criminal or anything but cops don't know that till after you are constrained.
 
Point is, it was a stupid ticket to start with, he was at the hospital, the officer should have just moved on a gone after a drunk driver or something worth his time. And let the man sit at his mothers side. My mother has end stage cancer, and when the time comes, if somebody tried to stop me from being at her side, I would probably do something worth prison time, but I would be there for her come hell or high water. That officer should lose his job. Maybe he needs to NOT be in a position of power seeing as it has gone to his head.
 
Having read both sides of the arguments with some from each being very valid, my take is that it was handled wrong by BOTH parties. The fact that the cop escalated it shows a cop destined to cause an innocent death. The driver should have pulled over and not continued to the hospital. I have always had a chance to explain "my side". The cop has always, always, always checked to see if it was true, and yes, I always pulled over. I also have always opened my window so the cop can clearly see who/what is in the car. Common sense failed on both sides of the coin and the cop should be reprimanded, terminated no, sensitivity training and reprimand - yes. This particular cop was a jerk. Plain and simple.

When you are placed in a position of authority you must uphold yourself to a higher standard subject to scrutiny. If you cannot accept that, get out of the job! If you need to point your finger at someone else to justify your own behavior, get out of the job because you aren't doing your job correctly.
 
Inka4040 said:
Tell that to Amadou Diallo's family. Or Patrick Dorismond's. I'm sure Sean Bell's family and Abner Louima's family would have more than a little trouble swallowing that line of reasoning as well.
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FWIW, 4 people out of how many that officers are forced to kill, would still constitute an accurate figure of 99.9%. ;) that's just me being a nit though. still love ya, rick. :p: in a "i want your coors light" kinda way.

Did the officer serve the public in enforcing a law? Absolutely. Did he do it tactfully? Absolutely not.

Dude broke the law. I would have, too, but he broke the law in any case. The cop enforced it. He handled the situation VERY VERY poorly, and should be re-evaluated for street service, at the least. That is an argument i can agree with. The "that ticket was BS anyway" argument is moot, unless you have a big neon sign saying "I'm headed to the hospital for a family emergency" on your car (still not exempting you from the law ;)), how is a police officer who sees you run a red light supposed to know?

For what it's worth.. I've been in a similar situation, with a close friend of mine. Difference was, the officer, instead of delaying our trip, escorted me to the hospital, lights and sirens, and then gave me a verbal warning.
 
IceH2O said:
You obviously have a hatred towards cops for whatever reason.
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You have the names, if you'd so love to read the details, I'm sure google will provide you with plenty of information.

As for my apparent hatred of cops... You know nothing of me, my intentions, reasons, or motivations, so please refrain from calling me obviously anything you obviously can't back up. I don't hate cops, far from it, in fact, I am quite respectful and deferential towards them, it's just the trust thing I have issues with, and if you saw the world from where I stand you probably wouldn't trust them much either. I'll leave it with my original point, those who receive more power should get that responsibility with more scrutiny. Racism in the police force is not a pipe dream or a conspiracy theory, it is at least in NYC, unequivocally proven FACT. The federal government has numerous times over the past 10 years found that the overwhelming majority of people stopped randomly by police officers are minorities, and as of last year's report, of those stopped, alost 80% were (regardless of race) found afterwards to not be guilty of any crime whatsoever. Racial profiling continues in full force, yet crime persists, so tell me if the system is working...


Again, if you can't see how it looks from where I stand, don't tell me what I do and don't see.
 
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