penguin/emperor filters

reptileguy2727

reptileguy2727

Not enough tanks, space, or time
Jan 15, 2006
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looking for any opinions (good and bad) on either filter line. i work in a pet shop and we may start to carry them. we currently carry whisper, millenium, fluval, and magnum. i would like to carry a bio-wheel line, but one of the coworkers is against it. i would like to know of any downsides to these filters. i would also like to know what people think of them in general.
 
I have a penguin filter on my 10 gallon and it works just fine. When the biowheel starts to slow down, I clean my filter and it perks right back up. It also self primes after being off. That's all I can say :)
 
thanks. tried other filters? if so, which ones and do you like this one better?
 
Why would one of your coworkers be against carrying a bio-wheel filter? They work great. I have personally been using the Emperor line of filters (basically the deluxe Penguin) since they came available in both marine and freshwater setups. They work just as they are supposed to, easy to maintain, easy to clean, self priming after a power out, and best of all, the bio wheel never needs replacing, just swish it in some old tank water once a month and you are good to go. Never have to worry about killing your bacteria because 90% of it is on your Bio-wheels. So go ahead and change/clean the hell out of that filter media, wont hurt anything. The inner-cleanfreak in my loves that. =)
 
i think it is a hold-over from her mother. but the reasons she gave were: noisy, hard to deal with (changing the filters i guess), and in saltwater the metal rod on the biowheel corrodes, and it causes splashing and therefore salt creep. i think she just likes to hear herself talk. i just got an emperor 400 from my cousin for free, the peg that supports the biowheel and that the biowheel spins on is plastic, so that wont corrode in saltwater.
 
I have a emporer 400 biowheel and I would say I like whispers a tons more. The biowheel filter I have is a pain to clean. So many hard to clean parts. I can clean my whisper 5 times faster and that is the truth. Also, the whispers are cheaper to run in the long run because of the replacement medias. I have a whisper and the biowheel filter on my 75 gallon tank and the whisper I like better. That is my opinion, but I have heard really great things about bio wheels. Other than the cleaning factor I would say they are great. Personally I like canister filters better though.
 
First of all, enter the keywords of your question and do a search. You will have more info than you can use at your fingertips.

I've used a Marineland Emperor 400 for over a year and it has performed flawlessly. I'm puzzled by previous comments concerning difficulty in cleaning the bio-wheel filters. The bio-wheels should never be cleaned with the exception of the bearings if it stops turning. The filter cartidges are a snap to clean off in the shower under a water pic type head.

Count the number of satisfied Emperor 400 users that pop up from your search and I think you'll get a feel for how reliably they work.
 
As a sales professional I can assure you that not carrying Penguin and Emperor filters is a considerable drawback. They are terrific filters and clearly in demand. I say you should stock these filters and get rid of the guy who wants to hold back your sales. First rule of retail is sell what the people want, which may not be what you want. The guys an idiot.
 
I never said do not sell the product. I just wanted to say some of the parts are harder to clean than my whispers. Other wise like you said they are a GREAT filter. Personally I think the first thing in retail is making the customer happy like you expressed, this means you need to sell a user friendly product or your customer will not be happy. Most people probably do not take there filters completely apart when they change their media like I do though. I do this because I have found it helps the GPH a ton. You would be suprised how much a little filth can lower the proformance of your filters.
 
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