what is it? well, the Flowerhorn has been described by many leading cichlid experts as "a manufactured cichlid monster". This fish, being a hybrid of two or more cichlids (one of the parents being the Trimac 'cichlasoma trimaculatum') is is being produced in the Far East. The Flowerhorn grows about 14ins, and has the same violent temperment as the Trimac. They are on the market at very high prices, between £20 and £50 here in the UK, so that would be about $35 and $85 in the US. I am personally against the manufacture of new fish species by man, and as a result would like to start this petition...and hope that many of you will join me.
petition against the Flowerhorn
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well, you better stop eating beef and most vegetables and fruits at your supermarket too...
sorry, don't mean to be confrontational, but what's the difference between creating a hybrid fish and hybridizing plants? Plants have been hybridized for centuries. Many domesticated animals are hybridized between closely related species too, not just varieties.
sorry, don't mean to be confrontational, but what's the difference between creating a hybrid fish and hybridizing plants? Plants have been hybridized for centuries. Many domesticated animals are hybridized between closely related species too, not just varieties.
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These fish are living animals and the people who breed them release the bad ones into the local rivers and lakes. The Flowerhorn is destroying naturla populations.
I htink that's what people said.
I htink that's what people said.
I've read that in another thread, too, O-Man, but Lesley is correct in saying that there is an overabundance of hybridization and this would exclude a lot of that which we eat. Plus, many feral populations are out there due to man's interference.
Thom336, I understand that the Flowerhorn does not occur naturally, and I disagree with the company's (supposed) decision to (allegedly) release these fish into the wild, but I will not sign a petition against its creation.
I would gladly sign one against the creation of Blood Parrots, but until I can sign that one, a relatively healthy hybrid with good quality of life is not something with which I will take issue.
Flame me if you like, but at least try to understand my view and consider it before you do so.
Thom336, I understand that the Flowerhorn does not occur naturally, and I disagree with the company's (supposed) decision to (allegedly) release these fish into the wild, but I will not sign a petition against its creation.
I would gladly sign one against the creation of Blood Parrots, but until I can sign that one, a relatively healthy hybrid with good quality of life is not something with which I will take issue.
Flame me if you like, but at least try to understand my view and consider it before you do so.
Does this mean that we should terminate all breeds of dogs, cattle, hybrid corn, goldfish, koi, etc.?
Unrealistic. Also unlikely.
Unrealistic. Also unlikely.
I sign
Apparently they are also having problems with pirahna getting into their rivers systems as well. Something tells me they need to be a little more responsible over there with things like that.
Apparently they are also having problems with pirahna getting into their rivers systems as well. Something tells me they need to be a little more responsible over there with things like that.
Thom, one thing about your original post: even if that crazy, whacked-out company with the "Flowerhorn creation directions" calls it such, a Flowerhorn is NOT, repeat NOT, a species of fish. Neither is the Blood Parrot nor are the *******ized Africans which hobbyists all-too-often carry in their tank. Minor detail, but I thought that I would bring that point to your attention.
Do you understand what a petition is? A random collection of 'signatures' (sorry folks, but a webname doesn't consititute a valid collection of peoples signatures) on a webpage for fish won't make any difference. At most, it's going to rile up some people who like flowerhorns. Petitions must represent a constituent portion of the population and or market, and be presented to those who have the money backing the industry. This thread doesn't cut it, and likely won't reach those in charge.
I'll let this continue, but people need to understand that you aren't voting, you aren't doing anything that will change the industry. Urging people not to buy them, and LFS not to sell them will be more effective than posting "I agree" on this page.
Not to be critical, but this kind of activity is silly. It's like standing in the corner of your room to protest being made to eat vegetables. Doesn't change anything, isn't seen by anyone who can change anything, just a good way of making yourself feel like you're 'doing something'. Feel good activism is a waste, IMO.
I'll let this continue, but people need to understand that you aren't voting, you aren't doing anything that will change the industry. Urging people not to buy them, and LFS not to sell them will be more effective than posting "I agree" on this page.
Not to be critical, but this kind of activity is silly. It's like standing in the corner of your room to protest being made to eat vegetables. Doesn't change anything, isn't seen by anyone who can change anything, just a good way of making yourself feel like you're 'doing something'. Feel good activism is a waste, IMO.