the last hybrid fish b4 the flowerhorn was the parrot cichlid...it was so deformed that its swimbladder was squashed against its other organs and it couldnt swim properly. based on my opinion that fish feel pain they must hav been in alot of pain. they also dies very young because of their deformities.
petition against the Flowerhorn
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the last hybrid fish b4 the flowerhorn was the parrot cichlid...it was so deformed that its swimbladder was squashed against its other organs hence it couldnt swim properly. it also dies of a young age due to its deformities. based on my opinion that fish feel pain, they must hav been in alot of pain. that is what man creating new life is hurting.
if you read my post, I mentioned exactly what you just said, and did say that IN THAT INSTANCE that creating the hybrid would be wrong.
Do you have any similar such evidence for the Flowerhorn?
How is that an abuse of our knowledge? Even creating a fish like the blood parrot, while certainly an abuse of an animal, is still not an abuse of knowledge.
Do you have any similar such evidence for the Flowerhorn?
How is that an abuse of our knowledge? Even creating a fish like the blood parrot, while certainly an abuse of an animal, is still not an abuse of knowledge.
BluEyes. WHen you saidthat sword tails and platy and guppies interbreed in the same tank..yes they will and do, but do we breed those babies and sell them?
ANd yes, I was wrong, that koi..bettas..and most cats are bred for looks, but the dogs are stull bred to AKC and other (British..other standards) standards that were made when the dogs were used for working, so they are still,technically, bred to work and for how they are built.
ANd yes, I was wrong, that koi..bettas..and most cats are bred for looks, but the dogs are stull bred to AKC and other (British..other standards) standards that were made when the dogs were used for working, so they are still,technically, bred to work and for how they are built.
care about what??? sure they may hear your spiel when u go thumping your chest & proclaiming your "gospel". but when I put MONEY down saying I want this & that fish, I'm sure they WILL order it-that is a good pet shop. dat's what wrong w/u zealots, u have a belief then u want the whole dam world to follow it. guess what? no one cares. so u don't like a certain fish, big hairy deal, don't buy it.
should u make FHs illegal? OK, what if I don't like beef? what if it's against my religion? should I have a right to force u to NOT ever eat beef again??? hmmmmmm.... daz how wars are started. if every1 would just follow & live their ideals & not force it down the throat of others, we'd all be living better.
oh BTW, hybrids existed LONG BEFORE blood parrots & FHs. swordtails, mollies, discus, devils, africans (to name a few). YES those hybrids have been in existence for a LONG time. the awesome coloration & pattern on some of those fish is a DIRECT result of hybridization. don't see u b*tching & moaning about those. guess what? some of those WILL HYBRIDIZE NATURALLY in the wild. OMG u better get on that magic carpet & stop all the hybridization madness!!!
should u make FHs illegal? OK, what if I don't like beef? what if it's against my religion? should I have a right to force u to NOT ever eat beef again??? hmmmmmm.... daz how wars are started. if every1 would just follow & live their ideals & not force it down the throat of others, we'd all be living better.
oh BTW, hybrids existed LONG BEFORE blood parrots & FHs. swordtails, mollies, discus, devils, africans (to name a few). YES those hybrids have been in existence for a LONG time. the awesome coloration & pattern on some of those fish is a DIRECT result of hybridization. don't see u b*tching & moaning about those. guess what? some of those WILL HYBRIDIZE NATURALLY in the wild. OMG u better get on that magic carpet & stop all the hybridization madness!!!
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Well said!
It's one thing to be all for species conservation through careful breeding, such as killifish keepers who go to great lengths to allow no hybridization because the fish they keep no longer exist in the wild and are extinct except in the aquarium and the species as a whole would suffer.
thom336, If you don't like them, don't buy 'em...don't spend your money where they are sold. That'll show 'em
Tracy
in my shop they are one of the most popular fish
very fish order i do i order 5 juvanuile flower hors and 2 adult i sell the aduld for $40 australian and the juvaniles for $10 australian and the people and get enough of them so im almost consinalty ordering more in to fill the needs of new and enthousiastic people to start up a new aquarium and theres nothung better in my eyes then to see a young boy or girl walk out of my shop with a smile and a new fish my fellow pet shop owner know what im talking about and if they dont they shouldnt be a shop owner
very fish order i do i order 5 juvanuile flower hors and 2 adult i sell the aduld for $40 australian and the juvaniles for $10 australian and the people and get enough of them so im almost consinalty ordering more in to fill the needs of new and enthousiastic people to start up a new aquarium and theres nothung better in my eyes then to see a young boy or girl walk out of my shop with a smile and a new fish my fellow pet shop owner know what im talking about and if they dont they shouldnt be a shop owner
another great thread based on your beliefs, thom. keep it up and maybe ill be able to hand over my award to you.
hold on....
i started a petition against the flowerhorn. it was meant to be friendly...informing people about this fish. i hadnt seen it mentioned here, so i thought i would. sorry if i offended anyone...but i offered people somewhere to put their mark against it...if you wernt against it, then you didnt put your vote. i think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick on this topic....
and TTman, many fish shops here in england are now refusing to order the flowerhorn no matter how much demanding and money you put to them...like me they feel it is morally wrong and refuse to sell the fish. i also do not ask you all to convert and follow what i say...i just ask that those of you who do feel the same to put your vote forward here.
Thank You.
i started a petition against the flowerhorn. it was meant to be friendly...informing people about this fish. i hadnt seen it mentioned here, so i thought i would. sorry if i offended anyone...but i offered people somewhere to put their mark against it...if you wernt against it, then you didnt put your vote. i think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick on this topic....
and TTman, many fish shops here in england are now refusing to order the flowerhorn no matter how much demanding and money you put to them...like me they feel it is morally wrong and refuse to sell the fish. i also do not ask you all to convert and follow what i say...i just ask that those of you who do feel the same to put your vote forward here.
Thank You.
trial and error
people are always using trial and error with selective breeding to make better working,show,hairer dogs and cats so its almost naturel to try and breed a new species of fish look at cave fish ive seen a cave fish breed with a female odessa barb and it turned out to be a realy nice brood of fish i know about the cave fish and how it breeds with other fish kinds but there hybrids and its a truly naturel thing to create hybrids so i give this a 10/10 for stipidity the petition of this size will do nothing if you got 10 times the amount they still wouldnt stop so i say GIVE UP complain about something else like the over cutting down of trees or water polution buy a boat and try and get a point accross thats my tip try and stop a big war boat from going to the gulf
people are always using trial and error with selective breeding to make better working,show,hairer dogs and cats so its almost naturel to try and breed a new species of fish look at cave fish ive seen a cave fish breed with a female odessa barb and it turned out to be a realy nice brood of fish i know about the cave fish and how it breeds with other fish kinds but there hybrids and its a truly naturel thing to create hybrids so i give this a 10/10 for stipidity the petition of this size will do nothing if you got 10 times the amount they still wouldnt stop so i say GIVE UP complain about something else like the over cutting down of trees or water polution buy a boat and try and get a point accross thats my tip try and stop a big war boat from going to the gulf
