petition against the Flowerhorn
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Actually, low quality flower korns are cheap. They've been sold at my LFS for $6. Buddy, I'm surprised I could afford him! And to make matters worse, they are often, very often, mislabeled as Trimaculatus. This is where the problem is. I can't go to my LFS and by a Trimac anymore because it's probably a hybrid. Now, in most of North America, Trimacs must be bought from a supplier of wild fish or a repuatable breeder.
And you DON'T need to be telling people what they can and can't afford. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that could afford a flower morn if they chose to (although why they would is beyond me). Also, many real fish are priced much higher than even the most overpriced flower gorn.
no actally the cave fish is a nateral hybrid in a way
if u do a bit more studying in your argument you will find that there are the blind cave fish and the fully eyed species which in the wild breed to make a hybrid also there are thousands of hybrid cichlids like the long finned oscar name a more graceful fish then that apart from the sff all those breeds of corydoras, the blue,gold rams the angel fish and the gouramis there are heaps and heaps of fish that are made of 2 or more species dont tell me that u dont like any of them.
also the food part of things like tomatos,potatos,corn,lettuse,carrots, then the meet you must be on a very very seclect diet there all hybrids and there of the top of my head. rest the peoples case
if u do a bit more studying in your argument you will find that there are the blind cave fish and the fully eyed species which in the wild breed to make a hybrid also there are thousands of hybrid cichlids like the long finned oscar name a more graceful fish then that apart from the sff all those breeds of corydoras, the blue,gold rams the angel fish and the gouramis there are heaps and heaps of fish that are made of 2 or more species dont tell me that u dont like any of them.
also the food part of things like tomatos,potatos,corn,lettuse,carrots, then the meet you must be on a very very seclect diet there all hybrids and there of the top of my head. rest the peoples case
These fish are in the wild also just very rare, Does it matter if they are breed by man??? alot of fish are made by mixing 2 types of fish , you might have owned one before 
Actually, the mix between the Blind Cave Fish and Mexican Tetra is not a hybrid, unless you consider mixing subspecies (and that may even be a stretch) to be hybridization. They are both Astyanax fasciatus morphs, possibly elevated to subspecific status, and will regularly interbreed, though it is unlikely that their populations will be mixed in the wild.
i didnt mention the mexican tetra
it will breed with any tetra thats around its size and shape emperor tetra congo tetras altought not in there nateral habitat in a huge aquaria like a 1000 gallon etc they will have there own kind and other tetas to breed with and i bet u a cave fish and an other tetra will pair off think about it
it will breed with any tetra thats around its size and shape emperor tetra congo tetras altought not in there nateral habitat in a huge aquaria like a 1000 gallon etc they will have there own kind and other tetas to breed with and i bet u a cave fish and an other tetra will pair off think about it
This is a problem with a good deal of "regular" wild species anyways! You can find mis-labeled fish in a great deal of LFS across the country. "let the buyer beware"
uh, one point here - a golden and a poodle are NOT seperate species, both are canis familiaris, just seperate breeds. The mix is just given that name because it is a easy way to referr to the mix - they usually do not breed true, so are not a seperate breed.
The reason that mixes usually fare better is because they have a broader gene pool. Many top show dogs have alot in common with royalty and rednecks - inbreeding! So, when you mix two inbred bloodlines, you end up with healthier genes.
Now, from what I've read on the FH, they DO seem to breed true, and are easy to breed (unlike BP what I've heard of BP's)
Re: i didnt mention the mexican tetra
I am thinking about it, and I cannot picture that being true. Even though they are blind (is that what you wanted me to think about???), they rely heavily on their senses of smell and touch, and I am guessing that these fish could distinguish between Mexican Tetra/Cave Fish and any other Tetra in the world. Plus, their eggs and sperm would probably not be compatible with that of species from other genera.
Also, you are talking about a large mixed community of tetras--how can you tell if these fish would be breeding with other tetras and whose eggs are being hatched?
Anyone have experience with Cave Fish breeding with other Tetras from differenet genera, and even different subfamilies (possibly soon-to-be-elevated-to-families)?
I am thinking about it, and I cannot picture that being true. Even though they are blind (is that what you wanted me to think about???), they rely heavily on their senses of smell and touch, and I am guessing that these fish could distinguish between Mexican Tetra/Cave Fish and any other Tetra in the world. Plus, their eggs and sperm would probably not be compatible with that of species from other genera.
Also, you are talking about a large mixed community of tetras--how can you tell if these fish would be breeding with other tetras and whose eggs are being hatched?
Anyone have experience with Cave Fish breeding with other Tetras from differenet genera, and even different subfamilies (possibly soon-to-be-elevated-to-families)?
My cousin got drunk and had a one night stand with a black man who then skipped town never to be seen again. The result was a mixed race baby being born.
Although this baby looks different we still love him and treat him the same as the other kids, but he gets a lot of stares and rude comments from strangers and racists because my cousin is blond hair and blue eyed and the baby looks very dark with black features.
Would you also start a petition to stop race mixing among humans just because some narrow minded bigots in society have a problem with it? I don't think so.
Point is: If someone wants to buy or create a fish that has different parents that is their right to do so. Grow up!
Although this baby looks different we still love him and treat him the same as the other kids, but he gets a lot of stares and rude comments from strangers and racists because my cousin is blond hair and blue eyed and the baby looks very dark with black features.
Would you also start a petition to stop race mixing among humans just because some narrow minded bigots in society have a problem with it? I don't think so.
Point is: If someone wants to buy or create a fish that has different parents that is their right to do so. Grow up!
