Piranha versus goldie!

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I think the problem is adding a goldfish thats a little too big for the guys ...

I had a piranah that size and i'd feed it the small sized goldfish. He'd simple inhale them ...

It reminds me when I first got the guy and tried feeding him a goldfish that was about the same size as him. He'd nip all the fins off before moving in for the kill.
 
magafish18 said:
we know because your not drunk but him the fish wasent real it whould be cool.

:huh: Even God himself doesn't know what you just said.

Why's it so "sick" to film that? In the ocean, big fish with sharp teeth eat little fish that are tasty, all the time. And I can tell you firsthand, sometimes they even bite people. Deal with it.

Comparing whoever filmed that to Dahmer is really, really ignorant. Dahmer murdered people and then stored their bodies in acid vats in his apartment, and he stored severed heads in his refrigerator. Oh, and he was a cannibal. Sounds just like the kind of guy who would film piranhas eating a goldfish to me. :rolleyes: Maybe every single cameraman for Animal Planet and The Discovery Channel all want to eat you as well. Gimme a break, shawn.
 
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I have to agree with those that have said it.

this hunting, killing, consuming of a fish by predatory fish is natural.

some may not like that this was shown on a video.. and posted here but none the less this is simply the nature of predator animals.

btw, many of the fish we keep in aquaria are by nature, some level of predator.

those of us who keep cichlids should be well aware that many of the fish we keep ambush their prey. hence warnings of which species to keep with other species (eg: not recommended to keep neons(or oto's for that matter) with angels.
 
What bothers me about the video is not the fact that the pirahna are eating a goldfish, but that the goldfish is obviously too big for them to eat and is being picked apart one tiny bite at a time. The person who fed them this goldfish wasnt doing it to feed them, they were doing it for the thrill of watching something die a horrible painful death. If they were simply feeding the pirahna they wouldve picked much smaller goldies.
 
Oh, I understand it’s the nature of the beast, a fish gotta eat, I don’t have a problem with that. Most of us raise smaller fish/shrimp to feed to our larger animals. What I don’t like is this obsession people have with owning violent animals because they enjoy their violence (or for the sole purpose of watching them tear apart another fish), or filming violent feedings because it’s ‘cool.’ It’s like they think it earns them bonus points or something…or is some great accomplishment of theirs…seems rather disturbing to me. Doesn’t seem like the right reason to own such magnificent fish.
 
jodimartin2003 said:
What bothers me about the video is not the fact that the pirahna are eating a goldfish, but that the goldfish is obviously too big for them to eat and is being picked apart one tiny bite at a time. The person who fed them this goldfish wasnt doing it to feed them, they were doing it for the thrill of watching something die a horrible painful death. If they were simply feeding the pirahna they wouldve picked much smaller goldies.
Bingo! IMO not quite the right reason to own these fish.
 
Its because someone is actually getting enjoyment out of watching another animal get eaten. Nobody I know video tapes or jeers on about neons eating flake food but they are happy watching another animal get demolished and the worst and bloody it is, the more people like to watch - something wrong with this. If a piranha was to swallow its food whole without shredding it, 99% of people on this forum wouldnt buy Piranha. I think its people's fascination with watching destruction. Thats the problem.

Its not that the goldfish got eaten and its not about owning preditory fish and feeding it live food, it us the user's satisfaction of watching that animal suffer. The video taping of the act shows they enjoyed the event enough to bother. Its like video taping pitbulls fight or video taping someone get beaten or watching a car accident. These are things that people (normal people) do not enjoy watching. The goldfish getting shredded is a fact of life, but to be happy that it happens in a cruel way is not good.

Think of it like this, if someone puts a mouse or rat and it gets torn apart, they are excited and happy as well...the sick people I mean. What if some sicko put a cat in there and taped it - would that be ok to watch compared to the rat? No different really, two mammals both feeling pain. How about a dog? Where does one draw the line?

If I personally owned piranhas, I'd throw in as small fish as possible so the carnage lasts as short as possible and I sure as hell wouldnt video tape it or post links to other animals getting killed for everyone's enjoyment.

Alestro Bakai said:
I'm not sure if I understand the moral outrage here correctly.

Is it because someone filmed this?
Is it because people have predatory fish?

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So far what I've seen, doesn't look any worse than what you
can see on the discovery channel at any time of the day.
And when I saw the headline piranha vs. goldfish, I kinda knew
what I was clicking on...

So what's the aggrevation about?
 
And we all know that wild piranhas would never, ever consider eating a fish, or any other mammal, that it couldn't swallow in one bite. Come on people! What do you think those huge incisors are for?! That's how piranhas feed! That's why they're called piranhas! It means tooth fish. Are you really gonna argue that it's only morally acceptable to feed piranhas feeders that are small enough for them to swallow whole? As if being eaten whole and being slowly disovled by stomach enzymes is a better death than being eaten piece by piece and slowly disolved. A small fish still dies, and a bigger fish still gets calories and protein. Get a grip on yourselves people.

If it makes you feel better, just pretend those piranhas were tearing apart a hatchling of some (obviously non-endangered) bird that fell from it's nest and into the Amazon River.

By the way, you have no idea what that person's reason is for owning piranhas, but out of sheer curiousity, what would be the "right" reason? I own fish so I can observe their behavior, and that includes watching them eat.
 
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Well, considering how many people slow down at a car accident to get 'a good look', I'd say it's the majority of people who enjoy looking at carnage, rather than the minority.

I feed my fish live bloodworms and grindal worms. I could feed them microworms, but I figure that would be only half the fun for them. I don't know about you, but I like to chew my food, rather than swallow teeny bite sized blocks.

Just like you said, where do you draw the line? Is feeding a goldfish too much? Is feeding a live bloodworm, trying to get away from my dwarf puffer too much? I watch them eat, and I enjoy it every time. Not because I like to see the bloodworm suffer, but because I get to watch my fish enjoy a meal.

Personally, I cringe everytime someone writes something like this here: "I like my guppies, their fry feed all my fish!", but I'd never think of bagging on them because of that. It's their choice.

I'm old enough to remember the Summer Olympics in Seoul, South Korea. I also remember a couple newspapers printing pre-made complaints that we were supposed to fill out and send to the South Korean Embassy and Olympic Committee, demanding that the games be held in another country, due to Koreans eating dogs. Personally, I'm don't eat dog, but who am I to tell another culture what to eat? Yes, they surely suffer from what I've seen, but then again, I have no clue what the cow went through that's responsible for my double cheeseburger with chili that I had yesterday. And I don't see a single Korean writing in to the state department, demanding to ban cow eating in my country.

To derail this further, unless everyone offended by this turns vegan immediately, I'd say they're hippocrites.

Now, I do agree, that the people who filmed this don't seem mature, but it's not because they're feeding a goldfish (of any size) to their piranhas.
 
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