Piranha versus goldie!

[svtcontour]

You would be vegan if you had to watch a video tape of your food (say a cow or sheep or what ever) get stabbed with forks and razor blades until it was dead - slow death example. If you were hearing it scream for hours in pain. Most people have no problems with eating meat because most proper slaughter houses do try and put the animal fairly quickly.....unlike some guy feeding a huge goldfish to piranhas that take their time killing it

Are you vegan?

 

[atc_ben]

that man is sick. I would like to punch him in the face! and like so many of these people have said before, it is because he gleamed sick pleasure from watching an animal die a terrible death. and when you feed a pirhana a small feeder fish, it is muched by teeth in the throat and tounge and killed instantly and fairly painlessly, it doesn't die a slow, painful death in stomach acid.

This is my favorite post thus far. I had no idea being munched by teeth in the throat and tongue was quicker and less painful than being munched by incisors. I'm sure it would be news to any feeder fish as well.

Well its also natural for people to get attacked by a bear in the wild so maybe we should start tossing people in bear cages. Hey its natural so if you dont like it, just dont watch the guy get mauled.

Congrats, you've officially gone off the deep end. Seriously, you're just being ridiculous. Are people a primary food source for bears? No. Are fish a primary food source for other, larger carnivorous fish? Yes.

And I'm sorry. Whether or not a feeder gets chewed to death by the front teeth or the back teeth - a difference to the feeder, it makes not. You can freeze or gas the little guys all you want, but if they suffer by being eatin while alive, they're gonna suffer as they're being frozen or suffocated. And ipso facto, if they're not gonna suffer from being frozen and suffocated, then they're not gonna suffer from being hunted and eaten.

Look, I'm against animal cruelty just like the next guy, but you people who seem to think that if a predator eats another fish in the wild, it's somehow more noble than one who eats a fish in a captive tank, are in a league of denial I've never seen before. And you keep coming up with these same moronic arguments: the fish was too big, the fish should be frozen first, no creature should kill and eat another creature ever, it's not fair, the piranha should only be able to chew the goldfish with his back teeth (my favorite), the fish should be from a grocery store and cleaned and diced before throwing it in the tank, the fish should be ground up and formed into pellets first, it should under no circumstances be recorded... blah, blah, blah. Can't you see how crazy you all sound?! Fish eat fish. Fish will continue to eat fish well after you all are dead and something is eating you. Get over yourselves and go watch your fish swim.

 

[Alestro Bakai]

You would be vegan if you had to watch a video tape of your food (say a cow or sheep or what ever) get stabbed with forks and razor blades until it was dead - slow death example. If you were hearing it scream for hours in pain. Most people have no problems with eating meat because most proper slaughter houses do try and put the animal fairly quickly.....unlike some guy feeding a huge goldfish to piranhas that take their time killing it

Well, I used to know 2 people who worked in 2 different slaughterhouses and both told me that 'mishaps' are quite common. Cows and pigs don't instantly die. Anyone being offended by one animal killing and eating another animal has to become vegan. Otherwise, they're hippocrites and they're kidding themselves.

Also, someone else mentioned that fish flakes are made from ... fish. Soylent green anyone? I'm not prepared to feed my fish celery from now on.

Two more observations.

1) the size of the prey doesn't play into the equation as far as I'm concerned.
Just like someone else said, lions kill water buffalos, many times their own size. Big fish, small fish, a piranha has to eat. The size of the fish has no moral or ethical relevance.

2) if we do talk about size, personally, I think that fish died rather quickly. Torn apart doesn't rank high on my top ten list of favorite ways to go, but as far as deaths in the animal kingdom are concerned, I think it went fast.

 

[svtcontour]

LOL the bear thing was to show 'entertainment value'. Look I have no problems with people feeding feeders to their fish, the problem lies in the way people choose their feeders and then enjoying their death by watching them get torn up and maybe even thinking its cool that they are being torn to shreds. You cannot deny that there are many people who get a kick out of watching feeder fish or mice/rats get killed. I have an issue with those degenerates who keep piranha just for the sake of having something 'dangerous' that can chew through flesh.

This is my favorite post thus far. I had no idea being munched by teeth in the throat and tongue was quicker and less painful than being munched by incisors. I'm sure it would be news to any feeder fish as well.





Congrats, you've officially gone off the deep end. Seriously, you're just being ridiculous. Are people a primary food source for bears? No. Are fish a primary food source for other, larger carnivorous fish? Yes.

And I'm sorry. Whether or not a feeder gets chewed to death by the front teeth or the back teeth - a difference to the feeder, it makes not. You can freeze or gas the little guys all you want, but if they suffer by being eatin while alive, they're gonna suffer as they're being frozen or suffocated. And ipso facto, if they're not gonna suffer from being frozen and suffocated, then they're not gonna suffer from being hunted and eaten.

Look, I'm against animal cruelty just like the next guy, but you people who seem to think that if a predator eats another fish in the wild, it's somehow more noble than one who eats a fish in a captive tank, are in a league of denial I've never seen before. And you keep coming up with these same moronic arguments: the fish was too big, the fish should be frozen first, no creature should kill and eat another creature ever, it's not fair, the piranha should only be able to chew the goldfish with his back teeth (my favorite), the fish should be from a grocery store and cleaned and diced before throwing it in the tank, the fish should be ground up and formed into pellets first, it should under no circumstances be recorded... blah, blah, blah. Can't you see how crazy you all sound?! Fish eat fish. Fish will continue to eat fish well after you all are dead and something is eating you. Get over yourselves and go watch your fish swim.

 

[Rowangel]

I think the argument has become more important than the subject. atc_ben is allowed his view point, and because it’s personal opinion there really isn’t anything anyone can do about it. He has made some valid points;

I would think that a captive piranha would benefit from chasing and catching it's prey. They have the same sensory system that sharks have, enabling them to detect miniscule amounts of blood.

This is true, but I question whether the food was intentionally made larger than necessary to help accent the carnage, instead of for the benefit of the fish?

Fish have to eat – big/small, alive/frozen, it doesn’t matter. The point is not that the piranhas are eating, they are just doing what they do naturally. The point is the pleasure/excitement the viewers derives from watching carnage or the assumed ‘cool’ factor of owning such a fish and taping its natural aggressive behavior. Most people have already agreed it’s a rather immature and uneducated thing to do. I doubt the motivation of the people who own these fish extends past their focus on one aspect of the fishes’ daily needs. It is childish and pathetic.

 

[DaisyTattoo]

****The people that are overly disturbed are probably the same people that cant enjoy a good boxing mach or a UFC championship.to each their own.

I just had to comment on this. Personally, I didnt watch the second video, so I can't speak for that one, however, I do not agree with what happened in the first video. I am against anything suffering for any period of time. Everything dies somehow, and why not be a benefit to something else if it's going to die anyway, but no one deserves to die by having tiny little peices of meat removed from their body. I wouldnt be upset had the fish been small enough to eat in a few seconds. Most of us know you are only supposed to feed your fish enough food that they can eat in a minute or less right Anyway, to the quote I posted..I HATE to see things suffer, but I LOVE UFC fighting. I even watched that Ultimate Fighter reality show faithfully. It's totally different bc those men CHOOSE to fight. They dont suffer needlessly. They get paid for what they do. Now I know that they prey is never going to CHOOSE to die for the cause, however, they dont have to suffer like that goldfish did. Especially since it was so big the pirahna didn't even kill it. It's just a shame.

 

[supgourami]

I don't think its disgusting at all. The fish gotta eat! That one big goldfish fed every fish in that tank, instead of having a bunch of little ones being eaten. Even the tiny little fish in the tank were fed from particles that fell off of the goldfish. Its what happens in nature every day. The circle of life. One goldfish died to feed like, 10 fish.

We eat cows and pigs and chickens, and no one seems to mind except PETA activists.

 

[shawn_h_25]

Dahmer

:huh: Even God himself doesn't know what you just said.

Why's it so "sick" to film that? In the ocean, big fish with sharp teeth eat little fish that are tasty, all the time. And I can tell you firsthand, sometimes they even bite people. Deal with it.

Comparing whoever filmed that to Dahmer is really, really ignorant. Dahmer murdered people and then stored their bodies in acid vats in his apartment, and he stored severed heads in his refrigerator. Oh, and he was a cannibal. Sounds just like the kind of guy who would film piranhas eating a goldfish to me. Maybe every single cameraman for Animal Planet and The Discovery Channel all want to eat you as well. Gimme a break, shawn.

Let me take a minute to correct you atc_ben,When I referred to the person who filmed this as having Dahmer tendencies its because Dahmer started to torture and kill animals long before he escalated to killing people.So do your research in the future before posting.

 

[twig]

i think it's a little crazy to start telling people they have dahmer tendencies for feeding live fish to predators ... >.>

That's very extreme.

From my understanding Dahmer didn't torture animals he just cut open roadkill to see what was inside of it.

Either way you're going too far with such stupidity and I think you should fan those flames of yours.

 

[fishcatch22]

I don't think its disgusting at all. The fish gotta eat! That one big goldfish fed every fish in that tank, instead of having a bunch of little ones being eaten. Even the tiny little fish in the tank were fed from particles that fell off of the goldfish. Its what happens in nature every day. The circle of life. One goldfish died to feed like, 10 fish.

We eat cows and pigs and chickens, and no one seems to mind except PETA activists.

yes, but in nature the animals are just eaten, there is no gawking, cheering, @$$hole instigating it. that's what was wrong. people, act_ben, what people didn't like about this video is that the man was making an animal suffer for his own sick amusment, not because he was feeding his fish food that was a little too big. I agree that feeding a large fish is most likely good for the fish's mental and physical health. and to quote someone who said that pirhanas don't kill prey in the wild, red bellied pirhanas are one of the only pirhanas that actually band together to take down larger fishes and kill them wild.