:rant2: im am at the end of my tether with my goldfish, i have 4foot and 3foot goldie tanks, the 4 foot was housing 4 small fancy goldies, 1 red cap oranda, 2 calico fantails and 1 orange and white fantail, over night 1 of the calico fantails has shown the white bumps on his gill covers, and has started constantly harrassing the other calico and the orange and white fantail, then i notice the red cap oranda has white bumps along the front edge of his front fins, they look a bit chunkier than the other calico and orange and white fantails front fins, so im guessing i have 2 male and 2 female fish. as of this morning both the red cap and the male calico are constantly chasing and harrassing the 2 girls. all 4 fish are between 3-4inches in body length as a rough estimate. the parameters are fine, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, 20 nitrates, ph 7.5.
in the bottom tank i have 2 slightly larger male fantails, trouble and asbo, one blue oranda and one calico oranda, they lost out on the big tank some time ago due to their aggressive behaviour when they first showed their white bumps on their gill covers and front fins, but they get along ok together so i housed them in the next biggest tank i have just as a pair.
now i just dont know what to do, ive tried all sorts of different combinations, trouble and asbo get along, redcap and calico male get along, but these 4 wont get along together, the 2 females are good together, but are constantly chased and harrassed by any male in the tank. the blue oranda-trouble,is about the best to be housed with the females as he switches his attention between the 2, but even so they are very stressed.
so, i was wondering, does this behaviour wear off? is there anything i can do to house them together? should i just rehome all the males and keep trying for more females? this is really stressing me out as im just about to purchase a larger tank for all to go into, but im not going to if i cannot keep them as one group. i know asbo will more than likely be rehomed due to his constant aggression, and he also chases any fish, be it male or female, the only fish he has ever got on with is trouble, and even that isnt great, they chase each other. i was planning on the new bigger tank going where i have the 4 and 3 foot tanks now, so i cannot keep one of the extra tanks to house any stroppy fish. trouble who is at this moment in with the females, in the 4 foot tank, is chasing most of the time, he stops for a few seconds every min or so, or will switch to the other female if she swims by, but this is the best i can do, as i have the red cap and calico males in the 3 foot tank now, and asbo the aggressive bigger male calico is at this moment swimming around a quite large plastic tub with no filtration. i do have a small 12-15 gallon tank with a fluval 2+ filter running in it, but this is the best i can do for now, and in order for him to move into their my daughters betta fish has to be removed and the heater taken out. :help2:i just dont know what to do. if the behaviour will wear off il keep all but asbo, and buy maybe 2 more female goldfish, once the bigger tank is up and running. im planning on a 100-110 gallon tank. i could go a bit bigger but the absolute max length i can go for is 54inches long, 2 feet wide, height isnt an issue. at the moment my biggest tank is 48 inches long, 12 inches wide. if i reposition the tank i can stretch to 5 feet long by 2 feet wide, but i dont want to go that big just to have it near empty as the fish wont get along.
in the bottom tank i have 2 slightly larger male fantails, trouble and asbo, one blue oranda and one calico oranda, they lost out on the big tank some time ago due to their aggressive behaviour when they first showed their white bumps on their gill covers and front fins, but they get along ok together so i housed them in the next biggest tank i have just as a pair.
now i just dont know what to do, ive tried all sorts of different combinations, trouble and asbo get along, redcap and calico male get along, but these 4 wont get along together, the 2 females are good together, but are constantly chased and harrassed by any male in the tank. the blue oranda-trouble,is about the best to be housed with the females as he switches his attention between the 2, but even so they are very stressed.
so, i was wondering, does this behaviour wear off? is there anything i can do to house them together? should i just rehome all the males and keep trying for more females? this is really stressing me out as im just about to purchase a larger tank for all to go into, but im not going to if i cannot keep them as one group. i know asbo will more than likely be rehomed due to his constant aggression, and he also chases any fish, be it male or female, the only fish he has ever got on with is trouble, and even that isnt great, they chase each other. i was planning on the new bigger tank going where i have the 4 and 3 foot tanks now, so i cannot keep one of the extra tanks to house any stroppy fish. trouble who is at this moment in with the females, in the 4 foot tank, is chasing most of the time, he stops for a few seconds every min or so, or will switch to the other female if she swims by, but this is the best i can do, as i have the red cap and calico males in the 3 foot tank now, and asbo the aggressive bigger male calico is at this moment swimming around a quite large plastic tub with no filtration. i do have a small 12-15 gallon tank with a fluval 2+ filter running in it, but this is the best i can do for now, and in order for him to move into their my daughters betta fish has to be removed and the heater taken out. :help2:i just dont know what to do. if the behaviour will wear off il keep all but asbo, and buy maybe 2 more female goldfish, once the bigger tank is up and running. im planning on a 100-110 gallon tank. i could go a bit bigger but the absolute max length i can go for is 54inches long, 2 feet wide, height isnt an issue. at the moment my biggest tank is 48 inches long, 12 inches wide. if i reposition the tank i can stretch to 5 feet long by 2 feet wide, but i dont want to go that big just to have it near empty as the fish wont get along.
