Powder Brown Tang

[1boatnut]

I don't quite understand the whole ich magnet thing. If you use proper qt for livestock it is possible to have an ich free tank and it doesn't really matter if some fish are more prone to show signs of it or not.

I'd personally have skipped the powder brown in a 75 though, especially with a hippo already in there. What do you feel the last one died of? Did it have any visible wounds?

Not sure why it died. No visable wounds. It actually started lookin bad on the drive home. When I got home and started to drip acclimate the fish,I thought he had died. After 3 hours of acclimation he appeared much better.
I put him in the tank and he acted ok health wise,but like a caged rat.
2 hours later,dead.

Also this fish was quarantined for me at the LFS where he runs copper. The other fish were already established in the tank with no visable signs of Ich.
Not sure how to quarantine any better ,so why the Ich?:huh:

 

[Grins]

I've read where some trust their LFS to QT for them but I still prefer to do it where I can watch them. Sounds like the last fish may have died from stress with how he was behaving..and why the 3 hour acclimation for a fish? That is an awfully long time for a fish, was the salinity that different between the systems?

 

[darkcirca]

"caged rat", as in swimming back and forth? I would too if I was in his place. Honestly though, consider not getting him. You are putting too much into too small a tank. I would never consider two tangs unless I had at least a 6 foot tank. One is bad enough, especially one that is larger and has more of an aggressive swim behavior. They like to swim, and they come from the ocean where they swim a lot and are given unlimited amount of space, then they are plopped in our tanks with no space and crammed up with another tang. Not my piece of cake.

A better way to put it when considering adding these fish to your tank, think about yourself in small place. Now a great way is a college dorm, it's small, generally 15x18 feet, and there are 2 of you. It's hard, and you feel like you are in a cage and you want out. Just imagine if you could never leave that place and they door never opened. Would you be happy?
No you wouldn't. I went nuts spending time in my dorm. There is almost no light, and my roommate was insane. The tang might not like his 'roommate' in a sense either.

Pass on the tang, you don't need another, you already have one that is too big for that tank.

 

[saltydunc]

i keep two tangs in a 100g....an orange shoulder and a yellow.....i haven't over done it with live rock and left them plenty swimming space and their getting on fine.....as regards keeping powder tangs alot depends on the state of the fish and conditions its being kept in your lfs......i find that too many shops tend to keep them with other tangs in the same tank and they end up stressed with fighting one another usually in a far too small tank.....me personally if i'm going to buy any tang i make sure the fish has only been in the shop for a few days max so i can give it proper love and care.......a friend of mine keeps a powder blue with no problems with assorted triggers......too many tangs are already in bad shape before you even take them home.

 

[1boatnut]

and why the 3 hour acclimation for a fish? That is an awfully long time for a fish, was the salinity that different between the systems?

See attached

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...ategory=4&category_search=61&root_parent_id=4

I've read where some trust their LFS to QT for them but I still prefer to do it where I can watch them. Sounds like the last fish may have died from stress with how he was behaving

Also it was in a tank by itself, and I go to this shop 3-4 days a week

 

[1boatnut]

"caged rat", as in swimming back and forth? I would too if I was in his place. Honestly though, consider not getting him. You are putting too much into too small a tank. I would never consider two tangs unless I had at least a 6 foot tank. One is bad enough, especially one that is larger and has more of an aggressive swim behavior. They like to swim, and they come from the ocean where they swim a lot and are given unlimited amount of space, then they are plopped in our tanks with no space and crammed up with another tang. Not my piece of cake.

A better way to put it when considering adding these fish to your tank, think about yourself in small place. Now a great way is a college dorm, it's small, generally 15x18 feet, and there are 2 of you. It's hard, and you feel like you are in a cage and you want out. Just imagine if you could never leave that place and they door never opened. Would you be happy?
No you wouldn't. I went nuts spending time in my dorm. There is almost no light, and my roommate was insane. The tang might not like his 'roommate' in a sense either.

Pass on the tang, you don't need another, you already have one that is too big for that tank.

I am going to pass on him.
Truthfully though,I don't know wheather I totally agree on the Hippo being to big for a 75gal

see attached for minium tank size
http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...ategory=4&category_search=61&root_parent_id=4

and this
http://www.petsolutions.com/Info.aspx?id=190

this
http://www.aquacon.com/Surgeonfish_saltwaterfish.html

I do however understand your point,but also think ALL our fish in general would prefer where they were, instead of being in any size tank.

But again,I am going to pass on this fish
Thanks for the imput

 

[1boatnut]

and why the 3 hour acclimation for a fish? That is an awfully long time for a fish, was the salinity that different between the systems?

Salinity was not that different
See these articles on the Drip Method which I use



http://saltaquarium.about.com/library/weekly/aa111802.htm


http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/acclimation.shtml

http://www.fishlore.com/acclimating-tropicalfish.htm

 

[Grins]

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_11_03/product_info.php?
Hmm was that the link you meant to post? It doesn't say anything about them needing a 3 hour acclimation. I could see it with an invert but again it is an awfully long time for a fish.

Also it was in a tank by itself, and I go to this shop 3-4 days a week
Hmm, I meant stress in your tank. Stress from the other stock, stress from the size of the tank, etc. On them having the fish in his own tank while in the store though do they not have a shared system? I'm not suggesting you go to a bad store at all, please understand that. But most stores don't have the facilities to set up QT arrangements for a single fish..especially not for many fish at the same time. If you trust them thats fine, just saying the thought would scare me a little personally.

 

[Grins]

Salinity was not that different
See these articles on the Drip Method which I use


http://saltaquarium.about.com/library/weekly/aa111802.htm
http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/acclimation.shtml
http://www.fishlore.com/acclimating-tropicalfish.htm

I'm familiar with the drip method. I use it myself many times. But even with it as the first link listed says it takes up to 2 hours with a fish. I have used longer when salinity is off so I understand, it was more a question of whether there was an issue with the parameters being so different that it would need such a long acclimation.

 

[Grins]

I am going to pass on him.
Truthfully though,I don't know wheather I totally agree on the Hippo being to big for a 75gal
see attached for minium tank size
http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...ategory=4&category_search=61&root_parent_id=4
and this
http://www.petsolutions.com/Info.aspx?id=190
this
http://www.aquacon.com/Surgeonfish_saltwaterfish.html
I do however understand your point,but also think ALL our fish in general would prefer where they were, instead of being in any size tank.
But again,I am going to pass on this fish
Thanks for the imput

Keep in mind that there are many resources out there that will disagree with 75 being enough. Thats the thing about the hobby...lots of varying opinions. Shoot I had respected folks give me conflicting advice on a yellow tang in my 55 as well so I'm not pointing fingers here. I'm aware that it could create a problem and I'm watching for signs of one and am prepared to upgrade or find him another home if the tank seems no longer appropriate for him. Especially since it can seem fine at first and then their aggession will show when they are full adults.