Presidential Poll
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Hes been banned in some. I know ohio is one of them. I think its funny, because most people who would have voted for nader will probably vote for Kerry, (which is why george bush is one of the biggest supporters of the Nader campain), but some of Nader votters are so pissed off about him not being on the ballot, they are now voting for george bush out of spite.
I also heard that Nader was taken off the ballot. I heard some idiot sued over this to get him removed...
I think he should have been left on the ballots since now it will bring up other problems.... "Naders on --- Naders off" Someone, or group will cry 'foul' and sue over that too.
I think he should have been left on the ballots since now it will bring up other problems.... "Naders on --- Naders off" Someone, or group will cry 'foul' and sue over that too.
Nader should be on all of the ballots, as should the Libertarian candidate. Just because they won't win doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to vote for them.
I need a leader I can trust, and I can't trust Kerry. Kerry disagrees with himself more than he disagrees with Bush. That may be fine while you are a senator, or trying to get votes, but when in a leadership role, i want someone who can make a decision, not withdrawal it, or cover it up. Sorry Mr. Senator, you didn't vote for it before you voted against it, only one vote counted. That attitude is the wrong one for a leader to have.
I also completely disagree on his foreign policy (he's already alienated our allies by calling the coalition a joke, and made or soldiers' sacrifices out to being insignificant by belittling the war he supported). And from a fiscal point of view, his domestic plans don't add up. Bush was never good at math, but you dont' fix a deficit by drastically increasing spending, that is Econ 101.
No matter who wins come Nov. 3, there will be someone to disagree. Last I heard Bush was winning by a landslide in Florida, so good news there. Even if Kerry was carrying Florida I wouldn’t mind, as long as someone had a significant lead. The fact that the state turned so sharply to the right might suggest that they didn’t appreciate the 2000 hissy fit.
I need a leader I can trust, and I can't trust Kerry. Kerry disagrees with himself more than he disagrees with Bush. That may be fine while you are a senator, or trying to get votes, but when in a leadership role, i want someone who can make a decision, not withdrawal it, or cover it up. Sorry Mr. Senator, you didn't vote for it before you voted against it, only one vote counted. That attitude is the wrong one for a leader to have.
I also completely disagree on his foreign policy (he's already alienated our allies by calling the coalition a joke, and made or soldiers' sacrifices out to being insignificant by belittling the war he supported). And from a fiscal point of view, his domestic plans don't add up. Bush was never good at math, but you dont' fix a deficit by drastically increasing spending, that is Econ 101.
No matter who wins come Nov. 3, there will be someone to disagree. Last I heard Bush was winning by a landslide in Florida, so good news there. Even if Kerry was carrying Florida I wouldn’t mind, as long as someone had a significant lead. The fact that the state turned so sharply to the right might suggest that they didn’t appreciate the 2000 hissy fit.
either way, we're screwed. The country is so divided that regardless of who wins we're gonna have a hard time accomplishing much of anything. When Bush was elected into office last election, eggs were thrown as his limmo was driving to the white house. Whoever wins this election, well, they can expect the same (unless its nader....but common, like thats gonna happen).
where the hell is Abraham lincoln when you need him?
where the hell is Abraham lincoln when you need him?
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chunksofpoooo said:
Interesting comment.
When Lincoln was elected it was a crushing bow for National unity. He was elected because the Democratic party was divided along north/south lines and the Southern states absolutely HATED Lincoln. So much so that when his election was confirmed, 7 states seceded from the Union and that little scrap known commonly as the Civil War was initiated.
Never in our history was a man so reviled in how time, so much so that Lincoln fully expected to be defeated in his bid to be reelected in 1864. Had a couple things gone differently late in 1864 he likely woudl have been. He was not much of a Hero in the eyes of many in his day. History and at times creative legend have made him larger than life. A bullet also helped enhance his legend.
But history also shows us, right or wrong, Lincoln had what was needed in his time. It didnt win many popularity contests at the time, but it helped to define our nation as it remains even today. What will history tell us of these days in a century? We can help shape that tomorrow.
Vote.
yeh, i realize that. But it doesnt change the fact that if he were running today id vote for him twice. Not to mention, my comment was directed at how he is seen today, not how he was seen in his era.
anyone with a stovetop hat and a funky beard is presidential material in my book.
Items:
stovetop hat:
Kerry--0--
Bush--o--
Funky beard:
Kerry--0--
Bush--0--
you can see that neither kerry or bush have the necessary materials.
anyone with a stovetop hat and a funky beard is presidential material in my book.
Items:
stovetop hat:
Kerry--0--
Bush--o--
Funky beard:
Kerry--0--
Bush--0--
you can see that neither kerry or bush have the necessary materials.
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true enough
...although when Lincoln ran the first time he didnt have the beard until well into the campaign. And that beard may have been funky...but what it covered was far worse. Add to that what was reported to be a high pitched nasal voice and a physical appearance more closely resembling Jack Skellington from the Nightmare Before Christmas than someone we would look to as heroic and its a wonder he got elected at all....
Bush kinda reminds me of a keebler Elf...round little face and a propensity to make his cookies such that you either love em or hate em....while Kerry has a post Botox jay Lenno look to him that cant help but make me chuckle.Why do I see him as having had a tough time in gym class in school...
bottom line is that we either choose to keep a sometimes overly headstrong cowboy or take in his place a smooth talker who shows well but has a questionable preformance record. Neither is ideal. One of them is gonna win this....
...although when Lincoln ran the first time he didnt have the beard until well into the campaign. And that beard may have been funky...but what it covered was far worse. Add to that what was reported to be a high pitched nasal voice and a physical appearance more closely resembling Jack Skellington from the Nightmare Before Christmas than someone we would look to as heroic and its a wonder he got elected at all....Bush kinda reminds me of a keebler Elf...round little face and a propensity to make his cookies such that you either love em or hate em....while Kerry has a post Botox jay Lenno look to him that cant help but make me chuckle.Why do I see him as having had a tough time in gym class in school...
bottom line is that we either choose to keep a sometimes overly headstrong cowboy or take in his place a smooth talker who shows well but has a questionable preformance record. Neither is ideal. One of them is gonna win this....
