Proof that aloe does anything?

[ghinksmon]

The most disturbing part of Dave's link is .... polyvinyl pyrrolidone (PVP-30) which is also used as a stabilizer that adds "mouth feel" to beer.

Is nothing sacred?

 

[mooman]

I was using some dechlore for a long time in my vivarium before I heard about chloramine

According to the directions, dechlor can be used on chloramine. You just have to use two drops per gallon instead of one.

 

[YoFishboy]

I kind of feel the same way about Melafix...I have have used it....maybe it has worked..and maybe they would have healed as quickly without it....the point made above regarding whether something is normally found in the water is a good one. Companies play to our consumer logic (possible oxymoron?) as opposed to our common sense (probably a definate oxymoron).

 

[daveedka]

According to the directions, dechlor can be used on chloramine. You just have to use two drops per gallon instead of one.

Unfortunately almost all dechlorinsators make this claim. The fact is only a couple actuslly deal with chloramines properly. The fact is Sodium thisulfate deals with chlorine and will do so whether it is ound into chloramine or not. The problem is the remaining ingredient in Chloramine which is some form of ammonia. Any dechlorinator will reak the chloramine bond and neutralize the chlorine, but only a couple actually deal with the remaining ammonia.

So it is a fact that dechlor deals with chloaramine. You add it and there is no more chloramine, it does not deal with ammonia though so it not a good recomendation for folks with Chloramines.
The dechlorinator folks are relying on Consumer ignorance, and the fact that most of the folks in this hobby do not do proper testing, and may not even recognize the ammonia issue. In most cases with chloramine, The ammonia levels that result are at or below 1 ppm, and the bio-filter wil deal with them in short order. But the fish's gill are still exposed to the effects, and are at a minimum irritated, but most likely there is a small amount of permanent damage each time a water change is done. Either way Prime and Amquel plus are two products that do in fact bind the ammonia into ammonium, and render it harless to your fish. The bio-filter will still consume it so it goes away, and the only down side is a very minor production of nitrates.

Dave

 

[LunchBox]

According to the directions, dechlor can be used on chloramine. You just have to use two drops per gallon instead of one.

I use dechor too. works like a charm, saiys 1 drop/gallon for chlorine, 2 drops/gallon for chloramine. it was cheap and it treats a TON of water compared to other stuff on the market. the last conditioner I used (can't remember a specific name, but I tihnk it was a tetra brand dechlorinator) needed 1ml/gallon, and you ran through it super fast.

 

[mooman]

Thanks Dave, I didn't think about it that way.

ps, I'm surprised we didn't see some of your cherry shrimp at the auction.