purigen stuff.

maybe ill try again with just:

"is the stress coat portion of your Aquasafe product amine based?"

I have seen someone with a signature on here encouragine people to give as much information as possible when trying to get help for thier problems. I find that never works with big companies btw. a slow dissemination of information is required to get anything done.

for example i went into greaaat detail on my dsl problem. by profession I am a networker, programmer, sys. admin. When i emailed them about my problem I attached long lists of transmit/recieve SNRs and powers, traceroutes, pings, remote pings and traceroutes. I troubleshooted the problem to an overloaded/flaky router in there ATM uplink system. I got a reply to the effect of I am not allowed to know that much about the network, cease or face disconnect and possible arrest for hacking.
 
Save yourself the trouble and just use Prime with the Purigen. It's the best water conditioner IMO, anyway and has no negative effect on Purigen.
 
ahh ... this is a better answer. This answer comes from Seachem. So the evil ingredient i'm looking for polyvinyl pyrrolidon, which aquasafe has. So it looks like I will be trying to find some Prime.

As for using Purigen with Aquasafe, it is completely acceptable to
do so. The problem isn't with the resin's performance after using
such products but with the regeneration process for these resins. Any
products that contain amine based polymers will coat these resins.
When the resin is soaked in chlorine bleach for regenerating, the
chlorine combines with the amine coating the resin to form
chloramine. Basically, the end result will be a chloramine soaked
resin that should not be introduced back to an aquarium. Our Prime
and StressGuard do not contain any amine based polymers and is
totally safe to use with our resins in an aquarium as well as the
regeneration process. As far as for Aquasafe I'm not sure of their
ingredients. The ingredient that you don't want is polyvinyl
pyrrolidon.
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i am in US. virginia. is bigals shipping reasonable? as in less that $7 for a single bottle? any other interesting dodads anybody reccomend?
 
Buy in bulk. Get the largest size of Prime you can afford. 2 liters should last you years depending on how much water you'll be treating. Also go ahead and buy some food or a test kit or something else you may need...it will justify paying for shipping.
 
2 liters. wow. for a 20g fish tank that will last me about .. hmm 1tsp/10g a week X 56 weeks X 5 yrs (average length of one of my long commitment hobbies) = 280 teaspoons. + 2 TBS/purigen recharge x 6 times a year x 5 yrs = 60TBS

280 tsp = 93TBS +60TBS = 153TBS = 2.262375 liters

so just under 5 years. but thats just off the top of my head.

hmm is it really neccessary to use 2 Tablespoons after a recharge of purigen. the pillow was too big so i had a bright idea of taking my impulse sealer and just sealing down the middle and cutting it in two. well one side sealed while it just cut the other spilling out beads. so I need some nylon mesh of comparable quality i can seal. Pantyhose is too stretchy. the bags at petstore are too flimsy (sewn not sealed and still stretchy) .

me being a man i must ask. do they make non stretchy pantyhose? :) I did see a womans shirt that might work .. unfortunately it was designer. I would probably be the only person with fubar fabrige (or whatever is popular now) filter floss. I would go test some but they give me really wierd looks when i enter that department... hey can i help it that its in the way of electronics and pet area and im too lazy to take the "bypass".

This purigen stuff is about like trying to capture sand. not quite that small but they are little balls so they a pain to keep in.

but anyway my point. I will have 2 bags eventually so i can just rotate them back and forth. can I just dissipate the chlorine by letting it dry out and sit in the sun for a while. I could mix it with ammonia and gas the neighborhood.

hmmm .. btw how much chlorine is toxic to freshwater fish. i might pick up a chlorine testkit with my order.

oh .. and what type of shelflife do these chemicals have? any I need to watch out for like formaldehyde meds (somehow it converts to a very toxic paraformaldehyde crystal which could put down a lake of fish.)
 
one and a half weeks later and 1 50% water change later......

my purigen is the color of creamed coffee and my nitrates have gone from 200+ppm to 10ppm I would have to say this product appears to work quite well.
 
How did your nitrates get so high? Wouldn't a water change be an effective way to export nitrates and whatever other pollutants are collecting in your tank?

Just curious... 200+ ppm is way high...

Jim
 
dont know. ive been having nitrate problems for months and work prevents me from changing water like i should .. i average a 50% water change ever 2 weeks.

with help and suggestion from this forum, the measures I have taken (appears successful in the short term at least) are :

  • drop feeding to almost nothing (1/8th teaspoon/day)
  • plant fast growing plants (anacharis and java moss)
  • increase lighting (since plants were not working)
  • build diy denitrator (had no affect what so ever, about to decommisson)
  • try purigen filtration media, which seems to have turned the tide as of this moment

my guess on the cause of my problem is probably overfeeding and rotting vegetation from underlighted plants.
 
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