Questions about using a sump

Design F -- good choice -- pretty much what I would call a standard sump layout. (link for anyone wanting to see it -- http://www.melevsreef.com/acrylics/sumps/f/sump_f.html)

Our sump / refugium set-up is basically the same as Design F (in principle), and has none of those things on the list your LFS said you should use. We have a single drain, which is split so that roughly 2/3 of the water enters the left compartment and 1/3 enters the right compartment. Our skimmer is in the left compartment, our refugium in the right compartment, and the return pump in the center (as pictured / labeled by Melev (Marc)). In between the baffles, I have LR rubble just to have some extra LR for bio-filtration. Whenever I want or need to run carbon or any other chemical media, I use a mesh media bag that I can also place in between the baffles. But, I seldom run any media -- between the LR, skimmer, macroalgae in the refugium, and regular water changes, there's little need to run any chemical media.

Ideally, you want the compartment for the return pump to be as large as possible. When water evaporates from the system, it is the compartment housing the return pump where it is noticable. If the compartment is too small, you'll have to top off quite frequently to keep the return pump under water. Remember... the baffles control the water level in the other 2 compartments, so the water level will not change in those compartments during use.

If there's enough LR in your system, there's no need for any ceramic rings or any other biological media. That's what the LR is for... bio-filtration. If you have aragonite sand in your tank, there's definitely no need to have a special section just for more aragonite (it's fine to put aragonite sand in the refugium). A sponge or filter sock to catch particles requires frequent maintenance to remove the detritus and honestly isn't all that necessary. Your skimmer will remove a lot of suspended particles / detritus along with organic matter, but there will certainly be some that settles out in the bottom of the sump. It's easily removed with a turkey baster, but you could put a filter sock over the end of the drain before it enters the sump if you'd rather go that route.
 
Wow! seem like you just saved me a bit of money :)

As for my LFS... they weren't very happy when I told them I already got the tank for the sump (my current 30 gal tank) :uhoh: guess Jojo is right I'm not sure how much would it cost there, but here I was looking at about $150 dollars just for the stuff to put in the sump (for reference the 80 gal tank I just bought cost me $200) guess they were trying to make up for the "loss" :mad2:

So I'm better of spending that money in a couple extra pounds of LR and aragonite for the main tank and the refugium with some macro algae (which by the way I barely know caulerpa ulva(sp?), which one do you recommend for the refugium?)

and psariandras I'm not 100% sure but from what fsn77 said about putting LR rubbles in the baffles I gather this are small pieces of LR (less than 1" in diameter), correct me if I'm wrong please

Now that you mention it fsn77, if I understood correctly the level of water of the main tank would remain unchanged and the sump is where I will see the evaporation and add there my topping water, is that correct?

Thanks a lot, can't wait to see the face in the guys from my LFS when I tell them I won't be buying all that stuff :grinyes: maybe that'll make them think that if they had given me a better advice I could have ended buying the hole sump from them... but I can only hope
 
So I'm better of spending that money in a couple extra pounds of LR and aragonite for the main tank and the refugium with some macro algae (which by the way I barely know caulerpa ulva(sp?), which one do you recommend for the refugium?)

I use a mixture of macro algae in my sump, which includes Caulerpra and Chaeto macro's..

and psariandras I'm not 100% sure but from what fsn77 said about putting LR rubbles in the baffles I gather this are small pieces of LR (less than 1" in diameter), correct me if I'm wrong please

That is correct. You can easily use a hammer and chisel to break up the live rock to give you the right sized rubble bits.

Now that you mention it fsn77, if I understood correctly the level of water of the main tank would remain unchanged and the sump is where I will see the evaporation and add there my topping water, is that correct?

That is correct.

Niko
 
I also use a mix of macroalgae -- razor caulerpa and chaetomorpha -- in our refugium.

Many LFSs will sell LR for less than normal size pieces. I've bought rubble for 1/2 the price of regular LR here locally.
 
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