yup i know about the poor kissers the lfs told me they would not get too big , and one year latter still about the same size i will trade them when they get bigger if they do the poor guys were in a 10 gal for 6 months so i don't know i would say one is 4-5 inches the other 3 inches. so more barbs although all the barbs hang out together and the tetra hangs with the danios i got him from my grandmas tank (10g) he kept nipping but is fine in the 55