Red Gills and Itching/flicking: Ammonia Issue Right?

Morkusmaximus

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Jul 21, 2008
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Grand Rapids, MI, USA
Hello Everyone,
This is my first post on this site so a quick intro to myself and my tank. I have been in the freshwater hobby for a year now, have a 10 gallon tank (not set up now) a 2.5 tank (Hospital Tank) and a 30 gallon tank (Main Tank). I just moved to a new apartment (College Student) and set up my thirty gallon tank about two weeks ago. I have in there right now 4 fresh water plants, 2 platys, 3 neon tetras, and two other tetras I am un sure of there names. The first (Named Skelatron) is just shy of the platys in size and completely see through/clear. The second (named Dub) is about the size of the neon's but brown with a black bar/stripe running horizantally starting at the back of the body to the tail, and has blue/white tips on it's dorsal's and tail. New stock that I added a week ago includes: 2 ballon Molly's, 2 neon Dwarf guramis, two fancy guppies (one male, one female) and a mystrey snail.

Now that you know a little about the situation let me tell you what I know. I didn't cycle my tank aporiately due to lease terms, time schedule, excitment, and laziness. The female guppie and the two ballon mollies (one exspecially) have red gills. Also, at least once a day one fish flicks itself against the plants/glass/decorations for a breif amount of time (30-45 seconds) and then stops. I read online and in my books and everything points to Amonia issues. So like a good hobbiest, I get out my brand new amonia test kit, test the water and get a result of .1 ml...... the bow says 1.2 is the safe amount.

SO now finally for my question..... Why would low Amonia give my fish amonia symptoms??!?!? should I just do a water change to be safe?!?! or in my hast is some other desease about to plague my tank. What to do?!?!

Some more info about the tank: the three tetra's and Dub the brown tetra (I think he's a tetra at least) had severe fin rot, BUT I quarinteen (sp) and treated them the past week and although there fins are still rought looking they don't show sick fish features... And yesterday when I added them to the thirty gallon, Dub bullied the female Guppie, but her fins were red before that. This happened before to one of my female guppies when I just got it and the bullying and a prior disease (curse bad pet stores) lead to her death. So I have dub in a in tank beta/breeder cage. Lastly, my old stock was in my ten gallon tank at my old place and I treated all the old stock fish with a tank buddies all in one prevention and cure disease medication two days before the move for the fin rot and one of the platys has what looks like saran wrap on one side of its head, because it is only white/visable when she gets just right in the light, so I thought it might be ich, or fungus, but it has been on her for almost a year.

So if these problems could have led to the red gills issue or anyone knows the identity of the Dub or why he bullys female guppies, and a cure for that, or what is on the female platys face I would be extremely gratefull!!!!

Sincerely,
The Knowledgable Newb
 
Do you have any pictures that you can offer us? Would be really helpful to be able to see what you are telling us about. Should make it a little easier to identify your problem...

also what are your other water parameters?
 
:welcome: to AC!

To be safe you need to do a large water change of 50% or more. Do you have a liquid test kit to test for Ammonia, Nitrite, etc.
 
I don't own a digital camera, but I can borrow my girlfriends.
I do have the liquid test kit for both Amonia and PH, but not Nitrates or Nitrites...
As for other water parameters, I can give you tempature, 76-74 is the range (hits 74 if I open my window at night).
I will post later today with pictures. Thanks for the help and welcome!
 
The stuff that looks like saran is not ich. Ich characteristically looks like individual grains of salt on the skin of the fish. Another name for ich is "white spot" and it is a well deserved name. The spots are white, about the size of a grain of salt and do not form any kind of continuous blanket on the fish. They are individual parasites.
 
I did a 30% water change yesterday (it was all I had time for, first week of classes). The Female Guppie and one of the Ballon Molly's have the red gills. I tested the Ammonia just now and got 0-.1 (maybe a .03, hughes are hard to distinguish). Their gills are still red, should I just keep of with the water changes? I haven't seen any skin flicking/itching but I also haven't been watching as closely.

Also here are some pictures of Dub and Skeletron in that order. I think dub is a black neon tetra and Skeletron is a white skitish tetra, but all the photos online aren't exact matches. Also Skeletron is more see-through/clear and not white. If it helps Identify him, his spine was dyed orange when I got him.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/Skeletron.jpg
Skeletron.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/Dub.jpg
Dub.jpg


PS Skeletron is turning a little towards the camera so his head to tail porportion is a little off.
Thanks again for all the help!!!
 
Okay here is my actual Aquarium with all the fish in it, you can see dub's quaritine in the back. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/Aquarium.jpg
Aquarium.jpg


Here is a picture of the molly and the femal guppy. They were a pain to photo but hopefully it gives anyone who might know a better idea.

BonniesRedGill.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/BonniesRedGill.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/BonniesRedGills.jpg
BonniesRedGills.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj160/morkusmaximus/OliveOil.jpg
OliveOil.jpg
 
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