RES and pleco

nerdyguy83

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I am going to keep a RES is a 40 gallon tank. I know the general rule in most cases is that any fish kept with a turtle will just end of up being expensive food, but I am worried about algae buildup in the tank. Would the turtle bother a clown pleco or something of a similar size? He is only about 4" right now, so he wouldn't be able to eat a pleco at the moment (so long as I bought one that was already near adult size). If he grows up with it in the tank, will it just become food later or will they live together in harmony?
 
Id just do your water upkeep, watch out for overfeeding, and manually take care of any algae buildup... Is this the tank you built yourself? Pics? Ah, I just saw your sig. Ill check your blog!
 
a 4" RES could easily take a pleco down, unless it was much larger than itself. common plecos dont eat algae anyways over a certain size, so all you would be adding is more waste, not something you want to do in a turtle tank. not to mention that tank isnt big enough if it is a female, and would be absolute minimum if it was a male, and even then you would have to have a ton of filtration, 100% weekly water changes, and the tank would have to be setup right to handle the large turtle. so yes, even if the pleco made it for now, it would end up eaten. so just scrub the algae during your weekly 50% water change (what i recommend at minimum with a water turtle or fish). if you want fish you can choose from fast hardy species. they will learn to avoid the turtle, and if you never feed live food to your turtle (as you shouldnt do anyways) the turtle will be much more tolerant of the fish. and if you put the fish in now while the turtle is smaller it will hopefully get used ot the fish and they will have better chance sof living. i have had convict cichlids, goldfish, and a few others with water turtles. in all likelihood you will still lose a couple fish, mainly because they dont learn fast enough to avoid the turtle. having fish also lets you make sure the water is staying clean enough. if the fish are doing well, you knwo your keeping the tank clean enough. what filtration do you have? what lighting? how deep is the water? what are the dimensions of the tank?
 
Ok, no plecos. To adress the comment about turtle care, I am aware what an full-grown RES needs for a living area. 40 gallons is the bare minimum for a male (which this turtle is), and that is what I am going with for the moment. It is my girlfriend's turtle, and it will be living in an apartment. If he gets big fast (which he probably will), we will upgrade to a 50 gallon, but with space being an issue at the moment we are going to start small. Up until this point, he has been living in a 10 gallon tank without great water maintenance and with a filter that wasn't up to turtle standards. He is going into a 40 gallon Sterilite bin with a homemade filter made with a pond pump that is rated at 526gph. Regardless of what the ideal is for the turtle (and I know this isn't it), it is better than a 10 gallon with a Whisper like he had before. I posted here and not on a turtle forum because I didn't want to get into this debate, so please leave your moral judgements at the door.

I will have pictures of the build on my blog soon, although they aren't there yet.
 
if you need help with a turtle you need to talk to people with turtles. and im not debating with you. i said specifically that 40 would be minimum for a RES, not unacceptable. my only current turtle is a 7" snapper who is in a 40 breeder. just like your case, its not ideal but its the best i can do for now and it is good enough. you are doing good enough, but based on what all you said you could have been one of the many people who get a hold of a turtle and may have a lot of misinformation. all im doing is trying to help you make sure all the info you have is right and the turtle is getting the best it can from you. im not making any moral judgements on you. what lighting do you have?
 
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