Royal Pleco - Help

There were a couple of different places that had breeding info, the only one I can think of at the moment is PlanetCatfish. They used a 125g and a big tube to act as a cave. They simulated a dry season for a few weeks then a rainy season. Supposedly a couple of days after the switch they spawned.
 
Karnaaj said:
I beg to differ. Not all Pleco's come from the wild. Quite a few of them are being captive bred, including the Royal. This is not to say that your Royal wasn't wild caught, it probably was. But blanket statements like that always make me nervous.


Actually, I am pretty sure that the royal has NOT been captive bred. I have not heard of it. But I could be wrong and if it has, I''d like to see the doucments on breeding it.

The following was found on planetcatfish.com
Sexing Undocumented, although with most ancistrine plecos the genital papilla of the female is round and blunt, that of the male by comparison is smaller and pointed. It is not known at what size this method of sexing can be used on Royal Plecos.
Breeding No published information exists, but I have heard that the fish has been spawned in captivity using some form of tube in a large tank (approx. 125 US Gallons). A false dry season of two weeks (low, warm, still water) was used. Then the tank was topped off with cooler rainwater (refilling about 80%). Lots of meaty and veggie foods were offered. The pair spawned within days.


The fact that the author "heard" that it was bred does not prove that it was. Any self respecting breeder would document it to back the claim. This appears not to have been done. I COULD say that I bred it and buy a half dozen babies and say they were fry but thats a lie. Till it's documented this fish has not been bred in an aquarium in my eyes.
 
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The royal panaque hasn't had a substantiated spawning claim in captivity. Other panaques have, including the blue eyed. Many species of hypancistrus, baryancistrus, ancistrus and others have been spawned though. I'd assume it's just a matter of time. The odds are very good your Royal was a wild caught specimen. Well aged driftwood to graze and warm enough temps (80 or above) tends to stimulate their appetite, also.

Barbie
 
Yeah, I am on the Planet Catfish Forums very often, and I don't remember hearing about Royals being bred in captivity. Not ony that, but I think a 125 Gallon would be too small.
 
:OT: I just thought I'd add that Royals aside, my blanket statement should not have been made, and Karnaaj was right to call me on it. Plain and simple AC is well known for not allowing myths or false statements to be made and left unchallenged. I stated something I shouldn't have, and Someone made it a point to say so. I was unaware that any pleco breeding attempt had been successful, and did some research as soon as I was corrected. As has been said, many pleco's have been bred in captivity, and therefore my statement was false. Royals are a different story as far as I can find, but my statement covered much more than royals and so did the correction from Karnaaj.
dave
 
clayt101 said:
Yeah, I am on the Planet Catfish Forums very often, and I don't remember hearing about Royals being bred in captivity. Not ony that, but I think a 125 Gallon would be too small.
I'm with clay on this. a 125 would be too small.I do not recall it either. Have you truely seen a FULL sized royal? Check out the shedd aquarium some time they are much larger than any I've seen for sale.
 
freeless2002 said:
Check out the shedd aquarium some time they are much larger than any I've seen for sale.

If I'm ever in Chicago, I will have to go there. I hear so many cool things about it (Altum angels and now Royal plecos). They must have a good South American set up.

As for Royals, I was just interested in hearing about captive breeding. It was on of the species that I thought about trying to breed. In fact I had 4 small ones, but after thinking about it, I realized that I had no where near enough room. In addition, I quickily learned that there are many varieties that are difficult to distinguish :)
 
clayt101 said:
If I'm ever in Chicago, I will have to go there. I hear so many cool things about it (Altum angels and now Royal plecos). They must have a good South American set up.

As for Royals, I was just interested in hearing about captive breeding. It was on of the species that I thought about trying to breed. In fact I had 4 small ones, but after thinking about it, I realized that I had no where near enough room. In addition, I quickily learned that there are many varieties that are difficult to distinguish :)
Yea, it's a great set up. It takes you through the seasons of the river and " a fisherman life". The "tanks" are floor to ceiling with hunreds of fish, birds, otters, turtles etc.

They have a simiar set up call the wild reef which is new.

I used to give tours until last year.
 
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