RTFM (If you don't know what it means, please see inside)

Goatman

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Read The F*****G Manual:

The concept of RTFM is as old as the written language. For every topic in existence there has been some sort of "manual" to explain the ins and outs of it. Here, newbies and veterans alike, is the manual for the aquarium. There is one rule to keeping happy, healthy fish, and that is to RTFM. It may seem like every new owner's problem is a unique circumstance in their microcosm of existence. Unfortunately it is most often not. It is generally due to the same reason(s) as every other unique problem people have encountered. If you are going to post a question about a problem with a new tank, read this list first:

1. High Ammonia/Nitrites: You didn't listen when people told you to chill out, and this is the aftermath. Did you ever hear the workd "cycle" or even "test kit?" If you didn't, you didn't do the most basic research, and for this my friend, you fail.

2. Too many fish: You may have bought into the concept of "1 inch of fish per gallon," or perhaps you bought all those fish thinking "what's ammonia?(see item 1)" Again, you did not do even the most basic level of research, or possibly even common sense. This is the aftermath.

3. BIG fish, tiny tank: You really bought into the whole "that oscar will only get as big as the tank will allow" concept, eh? Unfortunately big fish do not stay small, because evolution has chosen them to be big. We may like to think we're god some days, unfortunately the man upstairs' word trumps ours. You didn't use your high school Bio class knowledge, or common sense. This is the aftermath.

Okay, so you realize you didn't do the research, you impulse bought, and now your fish (and hopefully you) are suffering a little for it (here is where I admit that even I was an impulse-buy aquarist for a spell, most of us are guilty methinks). Here's what you do to fix the problem (if you caught it early enough to fix).

1. Read every single post in the newbie forum, don't stop until you reach the end.

2. Read every post in the articles section, even if it doesn't seem applicable.

3. Search the internet for information about the problem, read the first 5 pages at the bare minimum.

4. If at this point you can still think, still type, and have not found your answer... post a new thread about your unique problem. If it truly is unique, the majority of us will get a kick out of hearing something we haven't before, and doing our best to help rectify the situation.

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This thread is aggressive and in doing so does not encourage an attentive reader. People respond to kind word and gentle tutoring moreso than this blatent attack.

Most of the people who make those mistakes are new to the hobby and come to these forums in an effort to learn and do the right thing. This isn't the way to teach.
 
Spoonfeeding information to someone too lazy to find it themselves isn't the answer in my opinion. But, it's just my opinion.
 
I agree with twig, and all this information can be found in the article section in a much more polite delivery. Seeing as how you've not been here more than a week or so, you really have no place telling veterans how to do it, nor newbies or anyone in between for that matter. Slow your roll, hang arround for a bit, and try to use a bit more tact. The purpose of a forum such as this is to have real life people answer your questions. Sure using the search function would cut back on some of the more common questions, but not everyone knows about it who is new to the forums, and not everyone wants to go panning through 100 posts to find the one that actually answers thier question.
 
What is wrong with you? I can't believe you even posted this! There are people out there that honestly DO NOT realize "fishkeeping" is such a serious hobby for some and now you are posting crap like this? People come here in search of HELP and here you are.......what does that say for this forum?

Obviously you are a smart man, I've read some of your posts and by no means do I think that you are stupid or uneducated! If you get irritated w/ somebody and the way that have done something, don't take it out on them or post something like this! HELP THEM SOLVE THE PROBLEM W/ YOUR KNOWLEDGE! If you have use it, if you don't then ask. And I think that most people here agree w/ that theroy.

Furthermore, when you refer to the "man upstairs" and you are going to use His name in a sentence, then learn that the written english captializes the "G" in God. Not trying to be rude.
 
SumthinFishy, how many books do you own on aquaria? How long have you been working with them? How many hours have you spent finding information about new tech, new potential additions, or just whatever the other guy is doing? I don't assume to tell a veteran what to do, or a newbie either if they have put an iota of time into the hobby before they purchase their first tank. I've been working in aquaria for 9/11 of the time I've been breathing. How much does that mean? Not a thing. I still learn on a daily basis about what goes on in my mid-sized glass box. Do I post a frantic note for every hiccup? No, I find out what the problem is, and fix it. I put my time into my problem before I expect anyone else to. I just feel as that should be the standard, not the spoonfeeding for the helpless.
 
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Also... the second half of the post _does_ point out several ways to find the answer instantly, without waiting for someone else to post an answer, by taking some initiative. The post was not meant to be inflamatory, it was meant to try to instill a little initiative into the newbies who come here for answers. There are faster and easier ways to find the answer you seek then to post and wait for a reply.
 
And that is why people come here! Those "hiccups" mean something to them b/c they don't what it is! And that is where your knowledge comes in handy, you know something that they don't. You have the knowledge that they don't have and therefore you can use that knowledge to your advantage! Go and help somebody before you critize them, if they keep making the same mistake over and over again after you explain it to them then I could see you getting upset, but you are just getting flat out aggressive for no reason what so ever! If you explain it and they still don't understand then explain it again in simplier terms, I know that I have asked questions here and got the answers which read like greek. When I asked what they meant, they explained in simplier terms that I could understand.........and doing all of that w/ out getting mad at me or anybody else. And then if they still do whatever it is they planned on doing w/out taking your advise into consideration, then get upset! You don't have to post something like this to get your point across.
 
This kind of post makes me not want to post here... ever. I'm sure other Newbies feel the same way. Maybe they did read every single post in the newbie forum (although unlikely since that could take hours and if they have an emergency aren't going to do that).

But you know what, the fish end up paying the price because if more people could ask quesitons without feeling stupid there wouldn't be as many overstocked, uncycled, and poorly maintained tanks which you 'advanced aquariasts' despise so much.

BTW: I have 2 aquarium books and have spend exhaustive hours on the internet researching thanks.
 
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This kind of post makes me not want to post here... ever. I'm sure other Newbies feel the same way. Maybe they did read every single post in the newbie forum (although unlikely since that could take hours and if they have an emergency aren't going to do that).

But you know what, the fish end up paying the price because if more people could ask quesitons without feeling stupid there wouldn't be as many overstocked, uncycled, and poorly maintained tanks which you 'advanced aquariasts' despise so much.

BTW: I have 2 aquarium books and have spend exhaustive hours on the internet researching thanks.

Don't be discouraged over this post, there are really good people here that will help you (or any other newbie for that matter) and not be rude or aggressive. I was thrilled to find such a wonderful site, and I am a newbie here too! And for those newbies that read this, I wouldn't want to post or join this forum either!
 
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