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You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I assure you, there have been plenty of folks who have come through here with extensive fishkeeping knowledge who were not listened to, or eventually banned, due to thier poor attitued. And no matter how many times you post something like this there will still be new members showing up asking the same newbie questions. Getting an attitude turns them away and results in dead fish which Im sure none of us want (regardless if its in a tank across the world) I find your question of my fishkeeping knowledge to be an irrelavant boast, having nothing to do with this conversation.
 
SumthinFishy, you mistook what I wrote as a questioning of ability. The intention was to prove the point that the solid keepers own books, do research, and contemplate the merits of what's new.
 
lol...if you dont want to help people simply dont, its not a hard concept. Instead of posting your thoughts (which has little to do with fish) in this forum. Nothing helps more than people with first hand experience. - And yes I did over a month of research before I even considered buying a tank - Still does not account for first hand experience.
 
what the?

goatman wouldnt posting on these forums be doing research?i happen to own over 300 different animal books only about a dozen of them are fish related but i can tell you that 99.9% of books are outdated or just plain inacurate.there is no better way to learn than actual conversations with other hobbyists matter of fact if you do find a good book alot of times they will list private conversations as there source of information.and as far as searching the web i have found from experience that just because you make a web page claiming to know what your talking about doesnt mean you do.in the forums you ask a question and get real answers from several different people with several different opinions.imo if people asking questions bothers you you might want to do your research in a library instead of a forum created for people to exchange information.and you might want to be more polite ive been kicked out of forums for less.
 
Cheese Pope, did your fish get ill? Did your ammonia/nitrites spiral out of control? I'm guessing not. I agree, getting your hands dirty is the best, but not without at least understanding some basic concepts first. That's my point. The post is directed at newbies, in the newbie forum, because many newbies don't read the articles before they post their questions which are answered inside.
 
Goatman said:
Cheese Pope, did your fish get ill? Did your ammonia/nitrites spiral out of control? I'm guessing not. I agree, getting your hands dirty is the best, but not without at least understanding some basic concepts first. That's my point. The post is directed at newbies, in the newbie forum, because many newbies don't read the articles before they post their questions which are answered inside.
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I understand what your saying, dont buy what you dont understand, people who think that its the easiest hobby in the world, but in reality is alot more complex. But there are "nicer" ways to put it. :dance2:
 
For what it is worth.... this thread is just about as valuable as any I have read so far...

I was under the impresion that it was a simple hobby... put the water in the tank, and watch the fish swim around.....

I did however, buy "Aquariums for dummies" before i did anything, and i think i saved myself and my fish a ton of stress..... I guess "Aquariums for dummies" is "the manual" for me.... it saved my butt a few times already....

Also... i dont know who has this in their signature, but they say ingnorace is not an excuse for anything anymore, because the internet is around now. This is totally true, and i personally think there is no reason for somebody to just go out, buy a tank, put 45 fish in it, and have every one of them die....

It is that person's resonsibility to care for their fish like the do their children or their dog....

JMO tho
 
so just to drop in a couple cents here ;) I'd like to say that while I agree for the most part with the topics the OP covered, the way it was written felt like an attack. It sounded like an angry rant, which doesn't help anyone no matter how useful the info contained therein is. If someone feels they are on the defensive in the first couple snetences, thye most likely won't read further and may even leave the site completely. They say first impressions are everything, and it holds true here just as well as it does in everyday life.

good ideas, but be a little more calm and understanding next time if you could please. ;)
 
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