RTFM (If you don't know what it means, please see inside)

Goatman said:
Read The F*****G Manual:
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most tanks do not come with manuals

The internet is not a manual.

The internet is full of lies and BS. If you think its the end-all and be-all, let me sell you an online degree, some viagara and then finish with hot naked co-eds.


You have issues dude.
 
Newbie fishkeepers often have an idyllic version of fishkeeping in their heads. They think water is water and fish will live in it no matter what you do. They go to a friends house and see a tank but never see the maintenance that goes into it, so they think it takes care of itself. My own girlfriend insists that I shouldn't have to work on my tank as much as I do because her father used to keep a guppy tank and he "never had to do anything to it". On top of that, the primary source of advice for someone new to the hobby will usually end up being the person they buy the fish from. While this is not always a terrible thing, you will run into quite a few people (especially at chains) that either don't know a whole lot about the hobby themselves (not trying to start an argument, just stating an observation) or are so tired of telling people about the nitrogen cycle that they have just given up. Some of those newbs hopefully end up at this site looking for good advice. Posts like this one scare them away. Fishkeeping can seem like a really hard thing to a newbie who has his/her dreams of a self-maintaining tank shatterred. We are supposed to be here to educate and encourage. Posts like this one should be deleted for their general tone. This one especially should be at least be moved to another section. Newbie's don't need to read it. No one does.
 
MidnightPyro said:
I think some of the articles on Aquaria Central are unnescesary for people to read. Some people just want to setup tanks, change water every once in awhile and be done with it, while others want to go deeper into the hobby. I don't think it's nescessary for people to know every single process that goes on in their aquarium, but learn information as nescessary for when something goes wrong (and that's where the experts here come in handy :cool:)
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Don't mean to edit out any of your context, and I agree with your post in general.

But I do feel that the more you read ahead of time and learn minimizes things that will go wrong and cause a emergency situation.

While I don't think you have to read all posts and get confused/discouraged or over whelmed, many of the heavy hitters here have gone to great extremes to put info in very basic terms to enable folks to get a grasp on issues, before they create/develop a problem. Pro-active vice reactive is what we sum this up as.

As others note in their sigs, knowledge is power.
 
Of course newbies come here and ask the same questions. It's kind of obvious as to why that is. No point getting all worked up about it. Just help them if you can and you are doing exactly what the forum was made for.
 
the rage, the rage, i feel the rage.

wow buddy, for some one the has only been here enough to only post less than 30 messages is already annoyed by other posters. Have you not heard of self control. so what if aquanots can't read before posting, who cares. help them out, and put a notch in the belt. Unbelievable that you would even have the nerve to bring this up. for such a "forum newbie". no body cares if you have been in the fish keeping business all of your life or just thinking about starting, i appologize for all of the other aquanots that "CHOOSE" not to read up, but simply the fact of needing to know something is that "no question is to stupid to be asked" or even answered b/c you are the one being to lazy to even help them out. like it was said before, even the elder members take the time and to direct them to to articles and what not. so from what i have aquired from this forum is that you are easily irrated and that if you were my manager i would not work for someone that probly flippes out over an accident. and i for one don't care howmany books you have, i don't have any, and i am into aquariums. oh and basicaly, an aquarium boils down to one thing, to have fun and not try looking for help and get a boot in the butt. so next time think before posting. a forum is merely a conversation on the internet, so what if you can't see the person, you still need to mind your manners.

Good Day and Good By.
 
wannabefishguru said:
the rage, the rage, i feel the rage.

wow buddy, for some one the has only been here enough to only post less than 30 messages is already annoyed by other posters. Have you not heard of self control. so what if aquanots can't read before posting, who cares. help them out, and put a notch in the belt. Unbelievable that you would even have the nerve to bring this up. for such a "forum newbie". no body cares if you have been in the fish keeping business all of your life or just thinking about starting, i appologize for all of the other aquanots that "CHOOSE" not to read up, but simply the fact of needing to know something is that "no question is to stupid to be asked" or even answered b/c you are the one being to lazy to even help them out. like it was said before, even the elder members take the time and to direct them to to articles and what not. so from what i have aquired from this forum is that you are easily irrated and that if you were my manager i would not work for someone that probly flippes out over an accident. and i for one don't care howmany books you have, i don't have any, and i am into aquariums. oh and basicaly, an aquarium boils down to one thing, to have fun and not try looking for help and get a boot in the butt. so next time think before posting. a forum is merely a conversation on the internet, so what if you can't see the person, you still need to mind your manners.

Good Day and Good By.
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Well said!
 
This is directed to the person who started this thread-You are on a rant aren't you? How dare you post something like this! Do you understand that this is the newbie forum! Thank God for forums like this and the people here willing to help them. Can you imagine what would happen if they didn't come here with thier questions? Any question, no matter how many times it is asked is never a stupid question. Not asking questions is stupid. Now if you want to help newbies or anyome else for that matter, you need to calm your little butt down. If you don't want to help, then don't. People come here looking for answers, not to get thier a** whipped. So help or don't.

Marinemom
 
Where did Goatman go????????
He starts this thread and when people tell him their opinions he disappears....
 
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