ever since my male ram pride died last night, his partner joy isnt doing to well :/ she went from swimming and happy to a little lethargic, now she chills on my tower :/ i guess you were all right, i dont think shell make it through the next few days. I like rams alot but not enough to buy them just to die.. i guess they conditions really do need to be perfect.. ill just find some new fish that aren't so difficult to take care of and get to love them as i do rams. I really like Green Terror Jack Dempsys, are they difficult to take care off