Salt!

"1. Salt interferes with osmoregulation, this can be a soothing effect to sick fish, but interference with natural processes will eventually weaken a fish and shorten it's life even if it never succumbs to disease. Essentiually it creates the equvalent of renal failure if it isused long term." From Dave

Why has this simple question, turn into an argument. I asked for real information and look what I get. Not that this is my thread to control, but common sense. If you dont know what you are talking about, ask dont comment.
 
Kasakato said:
Not directed to anyone specficly. Just a general statement.
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I know that, Kas. I just think that this is one of those things where there will always be people who disagree about whether or not the salt is beneficial when added on a routine basis. "1. Salt interferes with osmoregulation, this can be a soothing effect to sick fish, but interference with natural processes will eventually weaken a fish and shorten it's life even if it never succumbs to disease. Essentiually it creates the equvalent of renal failure if it isused long termn added to the tank on a routine basis." Dave This is an excellent statement and I think that's a good reason not to use it regularly, however, there are other people that believe salt improves gill function, replaces electrolytes, etc. So how do you prove who's actually right? I just think this is one of those things that people are going to disagree about.
 
where is the science, though? Where is this info coming from? Even though I agree with you, I'd like to see reports on actual studies, otherwise, why should someone just believe me when I say salt is unnecessary? I need to be able to back that up when a box of Doc Wellfish claims this that and the other.
 
Kasakato said:
Im too tired to pull them up one by one but search AC and Google.
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Oh come now, Kasakato, you're the one who started this topic. If you're going to argue "no salt" you have to be able to back it up. I'm really not picking on you but I think you need to be able to prove your point, right? :D
 
I have kept Mollies FW, BW, and SW. They did fine in all three, but were not all the same strains/species/hybrids. The one water condition in which I have not kept Mollies is in NaCl-added FW. Why would I want to do that?

I do very strongly agree that there is a world of difference in salted FW and BW. If you cannot see this from the materials used, buy yourself a good pH probe, a specific gravity simple but full-range box tester (or a refractometer), a TDS tester, and simple hobby GH and KH liquid based test kits.. Calibrate all your tools, test the water variants: FW (your water source), salted FW, light, moderate, and high BW, plus SW against pH, specific gravity, GH, KH, and TDS. That little exercise will show you a lot. With any luck it will at least destroy the common LFS and forum myth that salted FW is the equivalent of BW.

Then look up a text in the library on osmoregulation in FW and SW fish. That will put the icing on the cake.

Don't guess, don't accept LFS or hobby posts here or elsewhere. Find out for yourself.
 
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