Schooling fish 3 inches - 4 inches long

I'll check out the rainbows, are there any other fish with good color that would work?

I'm not so sure I want a fish that can kill me with TB. Probably not even worth the worry though, how often has it happened?

I probably should mention my PH stays at about 7 in the tank, comes out at 6.8 from the tap after sitting 24 hrs. Its also soft water.

Okay I did a quick look at the rainbows and have to say I haven't seen such colorful tropical fish, besides cichlids.

Are all of these compatible with another or is it best to just get 1 type?

How many do they prefer to have per school?

They'll be in the 75 gallon and maybe the 55 gallon also as my wife thinks she likes some of them also.
 
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IceH2O said:
I'll check out the rainbows, are there any other fish with good color that would work?

I'm not so sure I want a fish that can kill me with TB. Probably not even worth the worry though, how often has it happened?
Never. It's not the same as the TB people get. It's totally epidermal and can be treated. "Fish keeper's" disease is what it's called, but people confuse it with something else. Pretty slim chance of getting it, but I like to make sure people are informed. I stick my hands in the tanks all the time and I'm pretty sure a few of my boes are carrying it.

You make sure the bows are in pristine water, 2 x 50% water changes a week (or every 4 days or so), kept healthy, and you will never have to worry about it. Only time I was worried was when I started CO2 and I don't think they had enough oxygen. You'll get warning signs from them, too. Threads on the mouth. If you see threads, you need to do a waterchange and check that they have enough O2. Sorta like an alarm system :)

I probably should mention my PH stays at about 7 in the tank, comes out at 6.8 from the tap after sitting 24 hrs. Its also soft water.
They aren't going to care :) Mine are bred in CA and the water there is 8+ in pH. Mine is 7.6-7.8, but KH 2 and GH 7. Softer than wax. They're fine. I also inject CO2, no problems so long as you don't over do it and make sure there's a lot of O2 in the column. Don't still the surface too much. They need the gas exchange. Current, too, lots of current. They will swim in the outflow all day.

Okay I did a quick look at the rainbows and have to say I haven't seen such colorful tropical fish, besides cichlids.

Are all of these compatible with another or is it best to just get 1 type?
You're better off getting one type, or doing two schools of two different types. Just don't mix sizes. Ie: don't throw Boes in with Millenium or Parva or Praecox. The bigger ones will pick on the smaller ones.

What might look good is a decent sized school of Parva and a one of Praecox. Blues and reds :) You could do Millenium, but they might be rahter hard to find right now.

I've got 13 Boesemani in my 75g. Seven are over 3" easy, sub adults, the others are only a couple months old. My last 75g will have two schools of the larger Boes -- the Crimson-Spotted and either Lake Wanam or Lake Kutubu. Kinda screwed up my theme by getting the Crimson as all my fish are PNG and that one is Australian :)

How many do they prefer to have per school?
Six, like all schoolers.

They'll be in the 75 gallon and maybe the 55 gallon also as my wife thinks she likes some of them also.
Oh, do the big ones in the 75g and the smaller in the 55g :)

Roan
 
Thanks you've been a ton of help..

If I can't find any in my LFS can you link me with some breeders?

I have never seen these fish, must admit I hadn't been looking though, around here. My town has a pop of about 50,000 but still has the small town mentality.

( I don't talk like this )
I reckon they might be some over yonder in the big city since they be those fancy fishes.
 
IceH2O said:
Thanks you've been a ton of help..
No problem!

If I can't find any in my LFS can you link me with some breeders?

I have never seen these fish, must admit I hadn't been looking though, around here. My town has a pop of about 50,000 but still has the small town mentality.

( I don't talk like this )
I reckon they might be some over yonder in the big city since they be those fancy fishes.
Well, they might have a couple, but I highly doubt they'll have anything but Irian Reds (not on the list I did for you because they grow 6"+), Praecox, Boesemani and Parkinson's and maybe an Emerald (Lake Wanam). You'll have to be careful that you don't get some hybrid, too.

The other rainbows I listed are rare. Some of them, like Parva and the Millenium, were only available to wholesale buyers from the same guy who brought them back from Irian Jaya, Kent Webster. If you get or read Tropical Fish Hobbyist, the January and February issues had features on the Goo obo Gudgeon and how they were discovered and brought back to the USA by Kent Webster. Cool reading, especially when I have some of those Goos' descendants in my tank :)

I get my fish from Tanner West, who buys directly from Kent. Tanner sells most of his from Aquabid. His user name there is RarefishatLAX and I can highly recommend him. He is out of Millenium at the moment, I bought his last batch. I do have a line on someone who may be able to source them if you are really interested in that fish.

Eric Brodock of http://www.alloddballaquatics.com in Pittsburgh, PA is a highly recommended breeder by members of the Rainbow Mailing List. He has a walk in store and the hours are posted on his web site. He also has rare bows and used to sell quite a few on AquaBid. I haven't seen any listings from him in a while, though. He has some that Tanner does not, and Tanner has bows that he doesn't have :)

Here's Eric's bow list:

http://www.alloddballaquatics.com/fishgallery.html

Hope that helps,
Roan
 
Nothing like having a predator fish getting a full belly from a nice school of rainbowfish.

Roan- why are you encouraging this?
 
chefkeith said:
Nothing like having a predator fish getting a full belly from a nice school of rainbowfish.

Roan- why are you encouraging this?
Encouraging what? I don't understand what you are referring to. The bichir? I thought he was moving them to another tank?

Confused :confused:

Roan
 
Remember whatever you add needs to be 4'' at least not fry or young and hope the bichir is tolerant.Generaly (broad sweeping statement) bichirs are non agressive predators however there are always the exceptions I had one it was his tank and he didn't share -Anne
Basicaly the bigger the other fish the better chance you have of them mixing
 
Roan Art said:
Encouraging what? I don't understand what you are referring to. The bichir? I thought he was moving them to another tank?

Confused :confused:

Roan

I'm not sure what Iceh2o is doing either. He has so many open threads about his tank(s), it's tough to keep up with him.

I'll quote him from other threads though-
IceH2O said:
The 75 will still house the birchirs and clown loaches.Might just throw the tetras and danios in with the 75,if they get eaten they get eaten.My only other option I'll list below in the 55 gallon.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66748
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IceH2O said:
This morning I counted only 4 danios. A small one had what looked like a small cut on him but was fine for the past 2 weeks, swimming, eating, etc. This morning he is missing. I searched the entire tank and moved everything to see if he was under it.

My question is ...Do you think one of my birchirs ate him? Its the only other option I can think of.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66748
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Ices' Fish

Tank:
20 Gallon L (adding 75 gallon in Jan)(55 getting set up)
Penguin 170 Bio-Wheel
Aquaclear 201 powerhead for aeration and current

5 danios
2 skirt tetras
2 Clown loaches(3 in and 2 in)
2 Dinosaur eels (both 3-4 inches)
Fantail GF
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I offered a good suggestion earlier.
 
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