Schooling fish 3 inches - 4 inches long

IceH2O said:
I decided in my 75 gallon tank that my Clown loaches would prefer a schooling fish to make them feel more comfortable.

Since I'll also have senegal birchirs in the tank I need to have fish that are bigger than 3 inches long or have a wide girth or are tall. They also can't be aggressive.

What can I throw in there to compliment the Clowns and Senegals?
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The very 1st post I made asking about what schooling fish could be put in the 75 with the birchirs abd clown loaches.

Originally Posted by Roan Art
Encouraging what? I don't understand what you are referring to. The bichir? I thought he was moving them to another tank?

Confused

Roan

Do you only read the posts beforehand and not the entire thread?
Did you see someone refer to Rainbows and just jump in not knowing to what you were talking about?

chefkeith
I'm not sure what Iceh2o is doing either. He has so many open threads about his tank(s), it's tough to keep up with him.


Its called research, there are so many options. Also when you quote me try using the entire post quoted from.You missed the edit claming the danio he ate was a small one.Perfect for him, thats why I asked about larger schoolers.

beblondie
Remember whatever you add needs to be 4'' at least not fry or young and hope the bichir is tolerant.Generaly (broad sweeping statement) bichirs are non agressive predators however there are always the exceptions I had one it was his tank and he didn't share -Anne
Basicaly the bigger the other fish the better chance you have of them mixing

That is why I asked about larger schooling fish.
 
I did not see "bichir" in the original post, obviously. My bad. I thought you were putting them in with clown loaches only.

I'm not going to go through everything and defend myself. I honestly thought you were putting the bichir in another tank. There is no way I would do 2 hours of research like that just to help someone feed their bichirs rainbowfish babies. What did you intend on doing with those 2-2.5" babies? I DID post that they would be babies and that big. I also told you they were a slow growing fish.

I made a mistake and I'm glad chefkeith caught it and gave me a reality slap. So, forget the rainbows, please. I don't want to have anything to do with this.

Roan
 
Does it matter which Danio the bircher ate? The point of my cut and pastes is that you said that you don't care about your fish being eaten.

I love Roan. She's here helping people everyday like you about doing fishless cycles, checking water parameters, doing water changes, and such to help keep fish healthy. I find it very ironic after all this great information that's being passed on to you about fish health that your here letting your birchers eat your smaller fish.

I'm sure others see the irony in this too.

The birchers, if kept well, will get well over a foot long. At that size they'll be able to eat most 4" fish (like rainbowfish). I wonder if the birchers do live long because if they ever try to eat the clowns it could be fatal for both the clown and the bircher. IMO, Your tanks (75 or 55) eventually won't be big enough to house these 2 species together safely. IMO, Clowns and Birchers are polar opposites.

I just happen to love clown loaches and rainbowfish. I'm just looking after their best interest.
 
First off I didn't mean to be so rude, as you can tell by the posting time I get up very early for work and hadn't had coffee yet.

Roan, I wasn't trying to call you out. I just see in many posts where people will give advice and its obvious they didn't read the entire thread. I won't put the rainbows with the birchirs.

Chef, I do care and thats why I was looking for a bigger schooling fish. As for eating the clowns, I doubt it. Everything I've read says that birchirs leave fish that are to big alone. Of course there will always be the stray rebel but I'd keep a very close eye on the situation and remedy it immediately.

As for tank size, theres always bigger tanks.

Thanks for the help guys. I take all advice into consideration.
 
Stolen from another post about Birchirs so I have a list to look through and not search for.

CATFISH
Dusky Pimelodid-Pimelodus blochii
Giraffe Catfish-Auchenoglanis occidentalis
Dwarf giraffe Catfish-Parauchenoglanis macrostoma
Giant Whiptail Catfish-Sturisoma aureum
Synodontis alberti
Synodontis angelicus
Synodontis pleurops
Synodontis decorus
Synodontis eupterus
Synodontis notatus
Synodontis brichardi
Synodontis nigrita
Synodontis flavitaeniata
Synodontis soloni
Liver Catfish-Heteropneustes fossilis
Black Lancer-Bagrichthys hypselopterus
PLECOS
Bristlenose-Ancistrus dolichopterus
CHARACINS
Silver dollar-Metynnis argenteus
Distichodus notospilus-Distichodus notospilus
Congo tetra-Phenacogrammus interruptus
Black-Barred Myleus-Myleus schomburgki
Filament tetra-Bryconaethiop microstoma
EELS
Peacock Eel- Macrognathus aculeatus
CICHLIDS *(see note)
Dicus-Symphysodon discus
Angelfish-Pterophyllum ssp.
Two-Spot Cichlid-Cichlasoma bimaculatum
Tilapia joka-Tilapia joka
Oscar-Astronotus ocellatus
Severum-Cichlasoma severum
Kribensis- Pelvicachromis pulcher
Sparkling Earth Eater-Satanoperca acuticeps
Blue acara-Aequidens pulchrus
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Blood Parrot Cichlid-Hybrid no scientifc name
Blue-Eye Cichlid-Cichlasoma spilurum
Festivum-Mesonauta festivus
African Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara nyassae
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Bandit Cichlid-Aequidens geayi
Blockhead Cichlid-Steatocranus casuarius
Callolepis Cichlid-Cichlasoma callolepis
Freiberg's Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara jacobfreibergi
Keyhole Cichlid-Cleithracara maronii
Port Acara-Aequidens portalegrensis
Uaru- Uaru amphicanthiodes
LABYRINTH FISHES
Ctenopoma .acutirostre-Ctenopoma .acutirostre
Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus-Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus
Ctenopoma kingsleyae-Ctenopoma kingsleyae
CYPRINIDS
Variegated Shark-Labeo variegatus
Bala Shark-Balantiocheilos melanopterus
Red-Finned Cigar Shark-Leptobarbus hoevenii
Red-linned torpedo barb-Puntius denisonii
Tinfoil Barb-Barbodes schwanefeldii
Chinese Algae Eater-Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Clown Loach-Botia macracantha
MISC.
African mudfish-Phractolaemus ansorgei
Black Ghost Knifefish -Apteronotus albifrons
Elephantnose-Gnathonemus petersii
African butterfly-Pantondon bucholzi
African Knifefish-Xenomystus nigri
(*note :to avoid agression do not have breeding pairs )

Thanks BeBlondie
 
chefkeith said:
Does it matter which Danio the bircher ate? The point of my cut and pastes is that you said that you don't care about your fish being eaten.

I find it very ironic after all this great information that's being passed on to you about fish health that your here letting your birchers eat your smaller fish.

I'm sure others see the irony in this too.

The birchers, if kept well, will get well over a foot long. At that size they'll be able to eat most 4" fish (like rainbowfish). I wonder if the birchers do live long because if they ever try to eat the clowns it could be fatal for both the clown and the bircher. IMO, Your tanks (75 or 55) eventually won't be big enough to house these 2 species together safely. IMO, Clowns and Birchers are polar opposites.

I just happen to love clown loaches and rainbowfish. I'm just looking after their best interest.
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BeBlondie an expert on preds also states Birchirs can cohabit with Clown Loaches. I've seen it on this site as I copied it from another post on AC and seen it on aquaticpredators.com.

Its not that I didn't care about the danios,thats why I asked about other schoolers and I'd keep the danios with the goldfish. But even if I did decide to keep the danios with the birchirs, how would that be any different than feeding them feeder fish?

I asked about larger schoolers. Roan misunderstood the post. I didn't know she misunderstood the post and kept asking questions to which she answered. I won't put rainbows with the birchirs and now I have a list to work off of thanks to beblondie.
 
BeBlondie

You say not to get a breeding pair because of aggression. How many males or females, which ever would be better, could I get of the cichlids type? Could I mix and match one of each (ex- Angelfish,Severum,Festivum )?

What about Gouramies?
 
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How about a school of giant danios? I have a school of them in my 75 gallon that also houses my large Oscar.

My oscar ate one of them the first day, they figured out that there was a predator in the tank, and none have been eaten since in over 9 months.

Plus, they are cheap and easy to get/replace if you need to.

My oscar would eat them if he could, but he is too slow and they are so fast and aware of his presence. Now I think the oscar just ignores them since he cannot get them. . .
 
Thanks for the suggestion Yucca. I'm looking for a bit more color though.
 
How quickly do Angelfish grow?

I saw some about 2 inches or so for $6 or I could go larger about 4 inches for $10.
 
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