Sea Goblin
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Liz...do yourself a great big favour and take the Goblin back to the shop...get rid of it please....species like this should only be out in the ocean as i have said before you collected the fish....The fish is only doing what it does best, and that is to kill for food...its only a natural instinct
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He seemed invincible or something
I can't believe he's dead
I'm crying
I want to take an icepick and stab the **** out of that stupid sea goblin and leave it on the doorstep of the lfs
This iis why research should be done on fish before you purchase them, expecially on fish that pet shps normally dont carry.
Sorry for your loss, however the new fish is not to blame.
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There isn't much research to be done. There isn't much information on them being kept in captivity. I read a post from a guy keeping one in his angler tank and he didn't seem to indicate that there was any problem so I assumed it would be okay. That's the only information I've found regarding keeping sea goblins with other fish. Liveaquaria.com didn't say anything about them being housed alone. Don't tell me to do my research because I did.
I don't know if the LFS will take him back, and I'm not sure I want to take him back. I mean as upset as I am about it killing my angler, it makes me respect this fish more.
I don't know if I can net him, when they were netting him for me at the lfs he was very tricky to net, plus there's the row of poisonous spines on its back. It would be easier to just icepick him.
I don't know if the LFS will take him back, and I'm not sure I want to take him back. I mean as upset as I am about it killing my angler, it makes me respect this fish more.
I don't know if I can net him, when they were netting him for me at the lfs he was very tricky to net, plus there's the row of poisonous spines on its back. It would be easier to just icepick him.
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With all due respect Liz, yes, there is....If you see something that you want to buy, and "when" you try to do research on it, come up trumps with none or very little info, that should be your indication that its something that is seldom kept in captivity. And you have to ask yourself why its seldom kept in captivity..
Its just killed one of your great fish, and your not sure that you want to take him back? i am at a loss to the train of thought there i am afraid...
Ohhhh k......
Is he showing aggressive behavior toward anything else?
I still like the fish. There are probably alot of hobbyist out there that do but the lack of information scares them away from it. I would like to have one but I am curious as to what he is compatible with. I would think a large lion and some triggers would be good. Does anyone know the hunting habits of this fish? How does he hunt in the wild?
I still like the fish. There are probably alot of hobbyist out there that do but the lack of information scares them away from it. I would like to have one but I am curious as to what he is compatible with. I would think a large lion and some triggers would be good. Does anyone know the hunting habits of this fish? How does he hunt in the wild?
He looks like a rock and he lies there and waits for food to happen to swim by. He's not aggressive, he uses his venom for defense I believe. That's what the bright yellow on his fins is for, he flashes that when he feels threatened to show that he is venomous.
atnixon, how about you come over and try to net him and go to the hospital for me.
All I read before I inquired about him at the LFS me was the liveaquaria.com page, which didn't mention anything about venom or being incompatable with fish. When I asked them to order him, they said none were available from their wholesaler but that they would try to get me one. Weeks passed, and when I asked about him, they didn't seem to be trying to get him, so I didn't bother doing any research because I didn't think they could get him for me. Then I went in one day and he was there.
That is why I didn't research properly. I didn't think they would be getting him for me. I pretty much gave up on the idea after a while and then boom he was there and I felt obligated to take him.
It was just a bad... situation. Coincidence. Poor communication. misleading information. I don't think I did anything wrong, because I wasn't expecting them to actually order one for me. It didn't seem like a reality. So I didn't bother researching. And I guess I assumed if there was anything fatal or dangerous about the fish that it liveaquaria.com would have mentioned it, they give you all sorts of information about the fish there.
atnixon, how about you come over and try to net him and go to the hospital for me.
All I read before I inquired about him at the LFS me was the liveaquaria.com page, which didn't mention anything about venom or being incompatable with fish. When I asked them to order him, they said none were available from their wholesaler but that they would try to get me one. Weeks passed, and when I asked about him, they didn't seem to be trying to get him, so I didn't bother doing any research because I didn't think they could get him for me. Then I went in one day and he was there.
That is why I didn't research properly. I didn't think they would be getting him for me. I pretty much gave up on the idea after a while and then boom he was there and I felt obligated to take him.
It was just a bad... situation. Coincidence. Poor communication. misleading information. I don't think I did anything wrong, because I wasn't expecting them to actually order one for me. It didn't seem like a reality. So I didn't bother researching. And I guess I assumed if there was anything fatal or dangerous about the fish that it liveaquaria.com would have mentioned it, they give you all sorts of information about the fish there.
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Bearded ghoul - Inimicus didactylus
FAMILY
Synanceiidae
TAXONOMY
Inimicus didactylus Pallas, 1769, Indian Ocean.
OTHER COMMON NAMES
English: Demon stinger, popeyed sea goblin, spiny devilfish; Japanese: Hime-oniokoze.
PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS
Grows to 7.9 in (20 cm) maximum length. The bearded ghoul is best recognized by the shape of its head and its elongate pectoral fins, which it uses for crawling along the bottom. This species can be distinguished by the pattern on the medial surface of its pectoral fin, which has a broad, dark, transverse bar that may be streaked.
DISTRIBUTION
Distributed from southern Japan and Indonesia to Australia, the Solomon Islands, and New Caledonia.
HABITAT
A benthic species found on open sandy or silty bottoms, particularly in estuaries, lagoons, and seaward reefs.
BEHAVIOR
A particularly venomous species that is capable of killing a human. Like most stonefishes, this species is a lie-and-wait predator that relies on its cryptic coloration and body form to surprise prey.
FEEDING ECOLOGY AND DIET
Feeds primarily on crustaceans, but small fishes also are preyed upon.
REPRODUCTIVE BIOLOGY
Little is known about the reproductive biology of this species.
CONSERVATION STATUS
Not listed by the IUCN.
SIGNIFICANCE TO HUMANS
Because of its small size, this species is not fished commercially; however, despite the fact that these fishes are highly venomous, they are collected occasionally for the aquarium trade, where they are sold as "popeyed sea goblins."
FAMILY
Synanceiidae
TAXONOMY
Inimicus didactylus Pallas, 1769, Indian Ocean.
OTHER COMMON NAMES
English: Demon stinger, popeyed sea goblin, spiny devilfish; Japanese: Hime-oniokoze.
PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS
Grows to 7.9 in (20 cm) maximum length. The bearded ghoul is best recognized by the shape of its head and its elongate pectoral fins, which it uses for crawling along the bottom. This species can be distinguished by the pattern on the medial surface of its pectoral fin, which has a broad, dark, transverse bar that may be streaked.
DISTRIBUTION
Distributed from southern Japan and Indonesia to Australia, the Solomon Islands, and New Caledonia.
HABITAT
A benthic species found on open sandy or silty bottoms, particularly in estuaries, lagoons, and seaward reefs.
BEHAVIOR
A particularly venomous species that is capable of killing a human. Like most stonefishes, this species is a lie-and-wait predator that relies on its cryptic coloration and body form to surprise prey.
FEEDING ECOLOGY AND DIET
Feeds primarily on crustaceans, but small fishes also are preyed upon.
REPRODUCTIVE BIOLOGY
Little is known about the reproductive biology of this species.
CONSERVATION STATUS
Not listed by the IUCN.
SIGNIFICANCE TO HUMANS
Because of its small size, this species is not fished commercially; however, despite the fact that these fishes are highly venomous, they are collected occasionally for the aquarium trade, where they are sold as "popeyed sea goblins."
read my modified post, atnixon. I didn't think they would be able to order him in for me, they kind of suggested that they couldn't and seemed to forget about it, so I didn't bother researching.
On liveaquaria, on the lionfish, on the basic stats it says "caution: venomous". There is no such statement on the sea goblin page.
No point in posting that information either, I read that before I took him home. But like I said, I felt obligated.
On liveaquaria, on the lionfish, on the basic stats it says "caution: venomous". There is no such statement on the sea goblin page.
No point in posting that information either, I read that before I took him home. But like I said, I felt obligated.
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