Set-up of tank
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its 8 years old and in 10 years it will be dead by the way its not stunted at all unless you call 12in stunted its always been in a 30gallon
stingray25 said:
Now its 12 inches?!?!
Stingray, the same place (this forum) where you got the species profile also says a minimum of 55g. You cannot pick and chose what information you like!!
gonefishing, please excuse the battle
!! It would be really pushing it to keep a couple of oscars, along with other fish, in that size tank. That being said, it is your tank and you can do what you like with it. However, the oscars will not be as happy and healthy as they could be in that setup and with a size tank you are talking about you could have a really great setup and not ever have to worry about the fish you chose growing too large.
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stingray25 said:
Overbreeding has nothing to do with it. Hole in the head and body deformities would be caused by poor water conditions and stunting from being kept in too small of a tank...which all too often is the case with many oscars kept in the hobby it seems. A 75g is the bare minimum tank anyone should attempt to house these fish in.
The advice provided by ntt and stingray25 is simply not correct, as a number of other members have been at pains to point out. A single oscar in a 46g bowfront would be a stretch; two would be impossible both because of the crowding and the overloading of the filtration system.
Stories of oscars raised to full size in 30 or 35 gallon tanks are not helpful, in that they may encourage others to keep fish in unhealthy situations. We should always err on the side of safety and responsiblity in providing information, especially to new or returning hobbyists.
gonefishing: when you say that your water is soft, do you mean it is low in total dissolved solids, or that it is being treated by a water "softening" system? If the former, please provide pH, GH, and KH readings; if the latter, your water is not really soft at all but has been treated chemically to make better soap suds. Please clarify. And plan on some smaller fish. If you would like a list of nice cichlids to try out in your tank, why not start a thread in the cichlid forum? I'm sure you will get plenty of responses.
Thanks.
Stories of oscars raised to full size in 30 or 35 gallon tanks are not helpful, in that they may encourage others to keep fish in unhealthy situations. We should always err on the side of safety and responsiblity in providing information, especially to new or returning hobbyists.
gonefishing: when you say that your water is soft, do you mean it is low in total dissolved solids, or that it is being treated by a water "softening" system? If the former, please provide pH, GH, and KH readings; if the latter, your water is not really soft at all but has been treated chemically to make better soap suds. Please clarify. And plan on some smaller fish. If you would like a list of nice cichlids to try out in your tank, why not start a thread in the cichlid forum? I'm sure you will get plenty of responses.
Thanks.
Sting, I kept 2 8'' oscars in a 20g long and they were *Fine* (I really hate this word because it means jack crap, and really is relative.... puppy mill breeding dogs are *fine* by the same standards you are applying to these fish). Do I advocate it? Do I even excuse it... not at all, because to do so is A.) Wrong, B.) Irresponsible, and C.) Cruel.
