slime coat coming off fish..

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terror

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Help..
i always notice this with my arowanas tankmates..
it was a flowerhorn before which i already sold..
it was with my arowana..

noticed that their slime coat always seem to come off? or is ithis fungus?
but it immediately improves after a water change?

what could ythis be? :eek:
io do weekly 30 % water change in my arowana tank..

this time my new tinfoils which are with my arowanas also gets this?
by my arowanas doesn't have any sign of this...

:huh:

here are some pictures.

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Terror, I don't personally know about it. But I did find this: slime coat FAQ's and also a web page that asks if "3. Acidic pH irritating the fish slime coat /skin

What is the pH of your tank immediatly before and after a water change? Is it in line with the preferences of the arowana and tinfoils?

Found this on a Koi & goldfish site on the subject of finrot: "4. Parasites. The slime coat is not easily breached, mostly it is parasites that do this. Both bad water and parasites will increase the thickness of the slime coat. The fish will look "cloudy" or not as shiny as usual. If there are no other symptoms, a salt dip to strip off the slime coat and remove most of the parasites, followed by a mild (0.1% salt) in the water to stimulate slime production (which will contain antibodies) is the least toxic route. Continued dipping of tail fins in salt will often stop the parasites while giving the fish time to develop immunity. Moving the fish bucket to bucket to leave the parasites behind works well.

HTH's
 
Matak said:
Terror, I don't personally know about it. But I did find this: slime coat FAQ's and also a web page that asks if "3. Acidic pH irritating the fish slime coat /skin

What is the pH of your tank immediatly before and after a water change? Is it in line with the preferences of the arowana and tinfoils?

Found this on a Koi & goldfish site on the subject of finrot: "4. Parasites. The slime coat is not easily breached, mostly it is parasites that do this. Both bad water and parasites will increase the thickness of the slime coat. The fish will look "cloudy" or not as shiny as usual. If there are no other symptoms, a salt dip to strip off the slime coat and remove most of the parasites, followed by a mild (0.1% salt) in the water to stimulate slime production (which will contain antibodies) is the least toxic route. Continued dipping of tail fins in salt will often stop the parasites while giving the fish time to develop immunity. Moving the fish bucket to bucket to leave the parasites behind works well.

HTH's
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thanks,
after a 40 % water change the fish is back to normal..
i'm not sure wqhat the problem is... i've also had flowerhorns and parrot cichlids which also developed this slime problem before... but it goes away after water change aqnd comes back after a while?

my ph should be 7.5 since our tapowater is 7.5 i'll check later to be sure:)
my tank has 1 tbsp salt per 5 gallon..
:)
 
If they are losing their slime coat, there is a problem with the water. I know you said your Ph is normal, etc., but could it be something else? A parasitic
disease like Chilonodella (slime disease)? The fins are not clamped as you'd expect though. If it was a disease, they'd no doubt be sluggish and have trouble breathing too.
 
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Well once you get that parasite or whatever it is treated, maybe with some formalin+malachite green treatment, I would recommending using Bio-Coat to help prevent this from happening (you can get it at Petsmart). It replenishes the slime coat of your fish preventing internal and external ailments (or at least that's what it claims to do). It also removes chlorine from the water which is another plus.
 
thanks...
can i use sera aqutan instead?
not sure about the cause but it's really puzzling as it doesn't affect datnoids and arowanas..? but it has effect on tinfoils and cichlids?


would raising the temperature in the tank be a good idea?
 
Well sera aqutan doesn't treat parasites but it seems like it's good for neutralizing metals and ammonia and reducing stress/replenishing the slime coat. So yeah it looks like it's good to use after you treat your fish. I'm not sure on the diagnosis so you can go to this site http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/index.htm to diagnose and find methods to treat it. Maybe it's not even a parasite? Who knows. I'd just go to the site. They've got some good info on sick fish.
 
Die Putzfrau said:
Well sera aqutan doesn't treat parasites but it seems like it's good for neutralizing metals and ammonia and reducing stress/replenishing the slime coat. So yeah it looks like it's good to use after you treat your fish. I'm not sure on the diagnosis so you can go to this site http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/index.htm to diagnose and find methods to treat it. Maybe it's not even a parasite? Who knows. I'd just go to the site. They've got some good info on sick fish.
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thanks... i'll try the link..
don't think its parasite, because if i transferred the fish to another tank.. this doesn't happen anymore... i'm really puzzled..
 
You mean the slime coat returns when you transfer it to a different tank?
 
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