snake escape

kuhliloach

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Dec 4, 2006
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ok so if any of you have read in the vivarium section of the AC my thread called MBKS, you would know i want a mexican black king snake. it didn't get much attention over there and not much results in google search but i've convinced my mom about feeding ione mice but now my dad thinks it will escape no matter what i tell him just because 20 or so years ago his brothers snake escaped. (this one is harmless)



does anybody know any good brand of cage clips/heavy books on the lid/keep extra fed ideas of making sure a cage is escape proof?

thanks!(please don't move this to the vivarium section because nobody really goes there anymore)
 
When I had my cornsnake (had him about 4 years), the only time he escaped was when I was transferring him from one tank to another and had him in a makeshift tank with a not very secure lid for a day while I finished rigging the lid to his more permanent enclosure. I then spent a week looking for him to put into the more permanent enclosure (he was under my bed) and didn't tell my roommate (who didn't mind enclosed snakes, but wasn't sure about snakes being out where people could touch them).

Anyway. I had a 29gal (12x36") tank that I couldn't find a pre-made screen top for, so what I did was used wood from the local hardware store (L-shaped) to sit on the outside edge of the tank (cut to lengths, glued together to form a rectangle), stapled fine mesh screen to the inside of that. Got a thin/flat strip of wood that would fit on the inside lip of the tank (again glued into a rectangle) that sat there, to eliminate gaps that the snake would be able to access the edge of the screen. I used these clips http://www.petco.com/product/4353/Four-Paws-Tank-Top-Screen-Cover-Security-Clips.aspx to hold it in place. In the three years he lived in that tank, he never once got out; I eventually gave him away to someone who I think is still using the same tank (and I think added a second snake), and she's never called me to say he got out of that either.

The important thing with snakes is making sure that you aren't able to lift up any edges, because they're strong and tenacious, and will go for any weakness in the lid. there can't be any gaps, and they will fit through a hole smaller than you think they can. Heavy books could work, but could be knocked down. The cage clips I had two on each long side near the corners, which seemed to work best as far as not giving me any areas of the lid that I could lift up myself. Keeping a snake from escaping is about planning, making sure everything is sturdy before adding the snake, and then being sure to close everything every time. I knew someone in undergrad who kept rattlesnakes; imagine if one of *those* got loose! ;P He had built a custom cabinet, made sure each tank had a secure lid so the snake couldn't escape its tank, and each tank was in a completely enclosed cubbyhole with a glass-fronted door and a lock. While you shouldn't need to go to those extremes, you could do a double-door system of some type to decrease the chances of escape.

Remember that feeding snakes should happen with frozen thawed prey, and outside of their living quarters; I used a cardboard box and ordered in bulk from rodentpro.com (along with friends to make shipping less expensive). Since I was in the room with the snake while he ate, I could watch for any escape attempts. (on looking at your other thread... feeding mice is required because snakes require whole prey, and are obligate carnivores... they should be just as glad that you're not wanting a full-sized burmese python, which beyond needing more room than most people can give them, are also big enough that they need something the size of a rabbit... The fur is needed to help with the digestive system, clean it out, keep it moving; the meat is obviously needed for protein and nutrition; the organs and gut contents has some nutritional value; the bones are for calcium).
 
please explain more about the wooden rectangle and the hardware store thing ...
 
Don't know a thing about snake cages, but my Grandma had a neighbor whose 6 foot long boa constrictor escaped and wasn't found for several months. It had apparently hibernated in another neighbor's basement. Grandma was scared of snakes and wasn't any too pleased to hear about that!
 
i'd just use a large rock..no way a kingsnake is pushing a heavy rock off..

i had an 8 feet female red tail boa in a 90g with screen top..all i used to secure it was a 10lbs cobblestone..had it for 5 years, no escapes

i don't trust screen clips..i have had 3 snakes escape even with those one..
 
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so maybe alot of cage clips and some wait on the cage lid? sounds perfect!

as soon as i get the money...



i'm still opens to ideas if you have any
 
that sounds fine to me.
 
There's always a chance they will escape no matter what measures you take. Snakes are crafty.

A long time ago one of my baby corn snakes broke loose. A week or so later my girlfriend found him on her face while she was napping. She really liked my snakes before that incident. Now she's my wife and forbids me to keep them.

I let her believe that's why I don't keep them anymore. Really it's because I got sick of cleaning their cages.
 
maybe this will help... cross section of the tank rim with cover. Extend around all four sides of tank (the lt brown/orange colored piece stayed on the tank at all times, the dk brown+screen came off). The wood I got pre-made at my local Ace hardware, as well as the screen mesh.

The clips I had were quite sturdy, and I made sure by lifting up at various points of my top that it wasn't liftable at any point by me (so tehrefore wouldn't be push-up-able by a 3-foot cornsnake). I used four clips. I also had a 2x8 board across the top of the tank, but mostly to keep my cat from breaking the screen when she sat on top than to secure the lid in any way.

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