Something hard I had to do...

Riso-chan

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Some of you may have already heard this story, but bears repeating for what I have to get off my chest.

My Father started an outdoor pond more than 4 years ago, and for the first few years it was a nice little project he took care of. Now that his job and other things have taken front seat in his mind, this pond and it's fish have suffered for it. It started with not having an effecient pump or filter, then little or no water changes, after that, the addition of apple snails which I told him would eat every plant in the pond. They did eat all the water plants, then they reproduced so much that now there are probably tons in there.
Surrounding plant material continuosly falls in there and the snails eat that also, while deteriorating the water quality further.

Last year, I tried to make a big deal about it to maybe get the pond fixed up a little, but my efforts fell victim to oldschool ignorance. For the longest time, I tried to think of how to get the fish out so I could euthanize them all, because they all either have ulcers, bumps, or are no doupt loaded with parasites. But I didn't have any way of getting them out of there without tainting my own fish net with their parasites. Then I was told to completely leave them alone because they were his fish, so I did with the pain of knowing they were suffering. I'm a lover of all living things, I even feel bad when I hurt a spider or moth.

For the longest time, I just avoided looking at the pond at all. I guess at one point, I must've assumed they'd died from the conditions. But I came home today after taking my dog for a walk and we were playing outside, when I looked over at it and saw one goldfish that I'd seen in bad condition before.
The ulcer on the end of it's tail was huge, it's gills were red and disdended, breathing slow, barely moving. At first, I walked away in disgust. I knew I couldn't leave it like that. No living thing deserves to live like that.

Although I didn't like the method, I used the only thing I could find in the yard, a shovel. In the fashion of a spear, I thrust it forward into the fish, nearly cutting it in half. Then, I thrust down on its head.
I tried afterward to get the body out of there so I could at least dispose of it before it started to fester. While I was trying to do that, I notice other fish in there still alive. I left the fish in there, and I just got out. I know I'm probably going to end up having to do the same to the others.

I don't think any lfs would take them after the conditions they've been in at this point. Someone on this forum already told be that euthanizing all of them would be for the best after what they've been in. I can't even imagine how sick they must be. Their immune systems must be supressed unbelievably. The creul thing is that the very hardiness that makes them good pets is exactly what allowed them to last this long.
I wish there was a way I could get a heron to come and eat them, but I don't think they'd eat diseased fish. I wouldn't want to make the bird sick either.

As for the many snails, what do I do with them? I know they probably harbor parasites at this point too, I don't even know if there's a way to disenffect them. If there's some hope for them, then they'll go to an lfs.
I just hate having to do somehing like that, but I can't stand to see them like that. They didn't ask for this. I just had to vent all of it.~Angela
 
If there are no other options you're doing the right thing. It's obviously difficult for you. Sometimes the heart and mind arrive at the same destination but take a different path - it's normal and you're to be commended.
 
Risochan, I sympathize with your problem. In my business I maintain ponds and often encounter similar situations. In those situations I often suggest the same thing to customers. Some understand and want what's best, some make me leave as soon as I suggest euthanization. I think you're doing the right thing. Keep your chin up.

Mark
 
Probably by mixing a bottle of clove oil into the whole thing.

I looked at the pond this morning, and I couln't find the dead fish to pull it out. So, I don't know if someone took it out or if it is pinned under something. Maybe it even sank.

I tried digging around in there with a garden tool for he apple snails, and only found two medium sized ones. They wouldn't even come out of their shells when I held them or when I place them in a bucket, so I assumed they were dead. Even that they can't survive just proves my point further; if you're not going to take care of something the right way, don't get it.

There were tennis ball sized snails in there too, but I couldn't see well in that water at all, so I gave up for today. I know there still other fish in there, maybe two or three. The water really stinks like a swamp, and there is this disgusting muck on the bottom whenever I pull up my findings. It's basically feel as you go, because the water got so murky. I'm really hinking I should just put something in the water to do them the favor. Then maybe I could try and clean it out for the sake of cleanliness in our yard. It has to be drained, and I'd need help to do that. So I guess nce everything is dead, I'll bring the fact that the pond is just festering away there and should be done away with, maybe made into a landscape area since there's already plants around it.
What should I put in the water to euthanize everything if I don't currently have clove oil?~Angela
 
Pour a large quantity of whiskey into the pond. The fish go to sleep peacefully, and all they die painlessly.

You could use bleach to deal with everything else.
 
Well, my parents have whiskey in the house but I think they'd get a little angry if I were to use it like this. I'm 21, but don't really drink, they'd know something was up. I kind of want to keep it under wraps until things are finished.
Would rubbing alcohol be alright? It's the only other thing I can think of, and as long as it works fast, that's what matters.

Thanx to everyone by the way, I needed the support, even if it's not in person.~Angela
 
If there is nothing worth saving in there why not just add 3 or 4 gallons of bleach. This fish are suffering quite a bit already. I can't see the bleach causing them to suffer anymore than they already are.
 
Don't go with bleach. It will make them suffer a lot more. It causes gill and skin irritation and fish may survive for days in that condition.
 
ima have to go with the fact that they arent your property so reguardless of right or wrong killing them all would be illegal

id just forget it exist , but this is comming from someoen who feeds moths and spiders crickets and feeder roaches to praying mantises everyday. even whern there was too many i would feed my praying mantises to each other.

anyhow kill them if you want, it dont bug me but i was just gonna remind you its ilegal
 
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