stacking rocks

ewok

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sorry, this is posted in reefkeepers too. i wasn't sure who would know the answer better.........

stacking rocks

i know you need something under them to prevent pressure points....

but what about the sides?

up until now i have always made free-standing piles of rocks, is it ok to let them touch the sides of the tank or even stack against it?

TIA
 
I wouldnt stack the rocks against glass, as the pressure would weaken it over time. Having sand as a substrate reduces the pressure of the rocks on the base. I wouldnt stack them free-standing, instead if it is to be a more perminant fixture in the tank (which I am rather assuming it will) then I would secure the main pieces together with a silicon sealant, smaller pieces could be placed loosely around, as then there is little chance of it all toppling over - which would shatter the glass.

Im not the most knowledgable about stacking rocks, and you probably would have better luck with a detailed answer in marines.

Good luck!
Thom.
 
Rocks should never be stacked on sand or gravel - that is asking for the stack to topple. Vacuuming, a digging fish or invert, etc., can undermine such construction. Rocks need to be built up over a firm base. I use eggcrate light diffuser and/or blueboard styrofoam. Either will diffuse pressure points and protect the bottom glass.

If you are building a major structure, build by the same priciple by which dry stone walls are built: Two over one, one over two. That means that if you have two smaller rocks, you bridge over both in the next layer with one larger rock. If you have a large rock, it should be supported by two (or more) smaller rocks. The larger rock can in turn support two smaller ones in the next layer, but they should be secured in the next layer with larger ones, bridging to each side, not a vertical stack. "Stacking" is exactly what you do not want, what you want is to almost weave the structure together with rock.

My mbuna tank was set up in this manner, several hundred pounds of rock, all the way to the water surface in the back. It never shifted in the approx. 15 years it was set. At the rear of the tank, a strip of eggcrate protected the back glass from scratches and pressure points, ending below the top row of rocks which did not touch the glass.

If you have never looked at a fieldstone wall, study one some time - a huge range of sizes and shapes, all tied together without morter and stable for decades at least. You just don't want it that regular and flat across the front.
 
I've not found epoxy or silicone to hold that well with most rocks... it always seems to hold for a while, then starts to give. I'd rather put my faith in stable stacking. For me, that includes most of what RTR noted. I use a variety of things below the rock to safeguard the glass: slate sheets, foam, and lately, sheets of plexiglass. I never add substrate (sand, crushed coral) until the rocks are in place and stable. I check the rock piles regularly to guard against shifting.

I also have stopped gluing rocks together because I find it disinclines me from tearing down and cleaning the tank. Even if you only tear down a tank every year or two, it's much more of a chore if the rocks are glued together...

Jim
 
I agree with piling them in a stable stack. I think it would be added insurance to epoxy them together. BTW, if it is good two part epoxy that has been allowed to cure at room temps for at least a week, it shouldn't break down.
 
Piling rocks in a stable stack reminds me of this cool rock-person somebody built at Rocky Point at the cottage...

rocks.jpg


I wouldn't trust my own stacking ability over 2 high.
 
LOL, cool pic!

i probably should have specified they were lace rock, so glueing isn't a real good option. not to mention they lock together pretty good to begin with. it's a 55g so it's only 12" wide. so i have a fairly nice pile at the bottom but it tapers up. i wanted to go wider, higher so i could add more rocks, but that doesn't really seem practical unless i allow some of the rocks to contact the back glass........ maybe i'll try the eggcrate, but it seems like that could look pretty hideous....

thanks :)
 
not like that matak.... i meant on the back wall of the aquarium. to distribute the load of the rocks, so there is no pressure points.

i knew what he meant. :D

thanks :)
 
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