Stocking ideas for 65, 55, 20's, and 10

This is my new revised list. I think it would work better.

10g- 4 sparkling gouarmis (3 females, 1 male), 3 otos
10g-6 neon/cardinals, 6 glass catfish
10g-2 German blue/gold rams, 6 tetras, 1 honey gouarmi,
10g-Guppies, spotted rasboras, white cloud minnows
20g- 6 cherry barbs, 1 pearl gourami, 3 kuhli loaches
20g-sorority of at least 10 female bettas
40g- platys, swordtails, 1 krib, 6 zebra danios, 6 glofish, 6 cories
55g-1 angel, 12 tiger barbs, 1 rainbow shark, 1 red tailed shark
I'm leaving the 65g to be sored by Kashta.

As for these ones in red fonts, let's start with the 10g tanks. The first one is okay however I might warn you there is no easy way of determining the sexes of sparkling gouramis, no matter how you attempt to distinguish the differences in any way. Sex ratio is not an issue. As much as possible, buy the smallest and youngest of the stocks. Sparkling gouramis are not exactly long-lived species with most records of them living for barely eight months so you may need to reconsider this unless you want to go ahead. Further details can be found here.

Secondly, the 10g tank in red font consisting glass catfish is ridiculously cramped. The tetras will work but glass catfish are absolutely nonos. They grow to 5-6 inches in length and as they require to be kept in groups, a 10g is quite a soft option. Get a 30g minimum for a small group of glass catfish.

The third tank will work however I suggest you keep only one ram. Why? A pair may work but in cases involving parental disputes, one of the rams will absolutely have no chance of escaping any harassments. A 20g long should be reconsidered for a pair.

Fourthly, again a 10g is not exactly spacious. What is the scientific name of the spotted rasboras? Choose only one of the three species you listed above.

The fifth tank should work. Add 5 more kuhli loaches there.

The 6th tank needs to be heavily planted in order for the sorority to work. Bettas establish pecking/ranking orders so it may be unlikely for some to survive if the alpha female happens to be overdominant.

The 7th tank will work. Lastly, the eighth tank needs to be corrected. Either ditch the angelfish, or ditch the rest. You cannot mix both the tiger barbs and sharks with angelfish for aggression issues. If you opt to stick with angelfish, go with deep bodied tetras, plecos, kuhli loaches, rams, apistogrammas, hatchetfish and rasboras as their tankmates.

If you wish to keep tiger barbs and sharks, then I suggest for loaches (which you wanted earlier), you choose Botia striata, Botia kubotai, Botia dario, Botia rostrata, Botia almorhae or Botia histrionica. Clown loaches may be an option as well if you're indeed willing to upgrade in the next few years. Skunk loaches are also an option. Despite their nasty attitude for a small sized punk, the tiger barbs and sharks can defend themselves well enough from these skunk loaches. Skunk loaches are not however suitable for community tanks in general, just the more feisty and aggressive ones.;)

I will probably add shrimp and/or snails to any of the ones where the fish won't eat the shrimp/snails, like the 10's & 40. I'm not sure about the others. I have no idea how the fish I planned for the 55 would react to shrimp/snails and I know loaches and bettas like to eat shrimp.
I must commend you for researching the compatibility and requirements thoroughly. Here are the following that will be compatible with snails and shrimps.

10g- 4 sparkling gouramis (3 females, 1 male), 3 otos
10g-6 neon/cardinals
10g-Guppies, spotted rasboras, white cloud minnows
20g- 6 cherry barbs, 1 pearl gourami, 3 kuhli loaches

If you consider keeping apple snails, please choose the mystery snails (Pomacea diffusa/bridgesii). These are absolutely plant safe and will work for plenty of planted tanks as they prefer to consume decaying and dead plant parts rather than healthy ones. Other alternatives include nerite snails, trumpet snails (Thiara, Melanoides, Brotia) and ramshorn snails (Planorbis sp.).

Assassin snails also fit the bill above but do not mix them with any other snail species intended as pets. Assassins are predatory species that prey mainly on other snails. If you wish to keep assassin snails, try breeding extra trumpet snails, ramshorns and bladder snails (Physas sp.) for their food. They will also accept bloodworms and fish foods in the absence of snail food supply with the latter only to an extent. Assassins happen to grow quickly once they reach the mark of half an inch compared to newborn ones. More information can be found here.

As far as nerites are concerned, please make sure your tanks are loaded with algae and biofilm by allowing the tanks to become well established. They will not accept other supplemental foods except algae and possibly pea-flavored snail jello.

What you should avoid are Pomacea canaliculata, Pomacea insularum (grouped under canaliculata complex category), Pomacea haustrum and Marisa cornuarietis. All of the aforementioned species are voracious plant eaters. The canaliculata complex are the most aggressive snails by far with predatory instincts (although this is not always the norm if well-fed).

Before you start with snails, please post here your pH and KH. We need to verify here whether you need calcium dosing or not. Acidic water albeit pH no higher than 7.0 will cause the shells to erode quickly thus damaging the snails and their health. All snails require a pH no lower than 7.4 (which is not an issue to any of your fish fortunately) along with KH no lower than 3. Click here for more calcium supplement infomation and be informed I will release an article for different types of calcium sooner or later.

I don't suppose mollies and 1 convict cichlid would go in any of these tanks? I like them, but they don't seem to work with any of these. I read that mollies are fin nippers and convicts are kind of aggressive.
Mollies can go here and replace either platies or swordtails for mollies. Both the swordtails and platies can crossbreed although the point is moot anyway since most of the platies and swordtails these days are a cross of each other hence why we don't see swordtails reaching 6 inches on mark and over anymore.

40g- platys, swordtails, 1 krib, 6 zebra danios, 6 glofish, 6 cories

As far as convicts are concerned, no tanks will work with them. Consider the fact convicts are amorous at an early age and will start breeding even at an inch size despite the fact they have a potential to reach 4 inches. At this time, they become extremely aggressive to the point, they will also kill their other tankmates.

Are clown loaches and plecos compatible?
Which species of plecos are you looking for? Almost all species of plecos will work with the exception of aggressive and extremely large ones such as Acanthicus adonis. If possible, stick with L010a, Rineloricaria parva, Sturisoma panamense, bristlenose plecos, clown plecos, butterfly plecos (not to be confused with the hillstream loaches often called as Borneo plecos), king tigers, queen arabesque and most Hypancistrus sp.
 
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Thank you!

One pleco is supposedly a Common. P. pardalis. The other I forget, I'll look it up later. It's similar looking to the Common. P. pardalis, maybe a Sailfin.The spotted rasboras are Boraras Maculatus. I'd get small plecos like Bristlenoses, clown pleco, candystripe, etc.

So.. redo

10g-4 sparkling gouramis, 3 otos
10g-guppies, shrimp, snails
10g-6 black neon tetras, 6 cories
10g-1 honey gourami, 6 neon tetras, 6 cardinals
20g-6 cherry barbs, 1 pearl gourami, 5-8 kuhli loaches
20g-sorority of at least 10 females
30g- (needed for glass catfish) 6 glass catfish, 6 zebra danios, 6 glofish
40g-1 krib, 1 or 2 blue rams, 1 angel, spotted rasboras, 6 silver hatchetfish, 6 congo tetras
55g-12 tiger barbs, 1 red tailed black shark, 3-5 clown loaches
65g-not sure. Since the golds will have a pond/pool soon, I'm not sure what I'll do with it afterwards. My plecos can probably stay in there for awhile (I dunno when they'll outgrow it) and the clowns can move in there. Maybe more plecos.. I'd love a bala shark but they get pretty big and need to be in groups... maybe a community or a cichlid tank.

Pond: for 6 commons/comets

Kiddie pools: (sunk down to keep cool/warm and with netting)

1. (at least an 80g) about 6 fancy goldfish, depending on how large it is
2. community pool: tetras, platys, swordtails, rasboras, danios, etc
 
Good plan so far! I'd suggest giving the plecos away to someone or you may place them in the pond (not the kiddie pool) provided temperature does not fall below 18 degrees Celsius. No balas for a 65g unfortunately. You could try rainbowfish there, giant danios, arulius barbs or filament barbs.
 
Nah, I'm sure I can upgrade for the plecos. I couldn't put them in the pond because I wouldn't be able to find them to take them out when it gets too cold. I could make them their own pond like I'm doing for the goldfish, but it would be easier just to get a bigger tank probably.

18 Celsius is the low 60's, right?
 
Thanks for all the info, I didn't realize keeping them all in the 65g for now could be dangerous to their health and cause them to not grow properly. For the 6 commons/comets, how many gallons do they need when full grown? I'm considering making a pond for them to stay in their whole life, instead of putting them in my "big pond". That way, if I made them their own pond, I could put netting over it to make sure nothing ever happens to them. For now, I can put them in a large kiddie pool (sink the kiddie pool into the ground in a shady area and put netting over it). I'm sure I could find at least 100 gallon kiddie pool..

I hope the goldfish aren't already stunted or unhealthy. I adopted them from someone keeping them in a 5g and 2.5g with a bunch of other fish and I have no idea how long they were in those small tanks.

Are clown loaches and plecos compatible?

Oh, I'm glad you got them out of those smaller sized tanks already! 20 gallons each is good for them for their whole lifespan.. so 100 gallons in a pond/kiddie pool is real close to the target of 120 gallons. Would only be slightly overstocked.

And yes.. a lot of people don't realize the risks and a lot of great fish are lost. This isn't what we're commonly told in the beginning. For that matter, many people believe goldfish only live a few years anyway.. never realizing they actually have a 15-40 year lifespan, if given proper conditions.

If you're not sure how old they are, then yes.. they might already be smaller than they would be otherwise at the present time. But if they're still active and healthy, they're in good shape still and will make up for their lost growth quite fast. So no worries if you can upgrade them soon, keep the water quality high, and make sure they're getting a high quality diet.

Through their first year of life, goldies develop about 65-75 percent of their full body development. During their second year, most growth occurs in their fins. Then by their third year, they're entering their peak adult form and that's when the top quality fish are sold off for shows or to breeders. So they'll recoup for a stunted beginning if we catch that early enough during their high growth developmental years.

For the most part, I believe the clown loaches and plecos are okay together. The only thing I know to question about that would be the pleco's appetite for a loaches' slime coating. Loaches don't have scales, so they would be vulnerable.. same as with goldfish, discus.. other fish like that. I have plecos, but not with loaches. So someone else will have to verify this part for you.. on their compatibility.
 
So all 6 will need 120 gals? Yay, I thought I'd have to make a much bigger pond than that, though I probably will make it a little bigger than necessary in case I take in anymore rescues.


For the 65g, could I have 6 dwarf neon rainbows, 1 electric yellow cichlid, 1 convict cichlid (if there's just 1 and there isn't a male and female, they can be housed with other slightly aggressive fish, right?) 4 giant danios, 4 rosy barbs, 4 filament barbs, and 4 arulius barbs? Might be overstocked.. so might have to not get 1 of the types of barbs.
 
i would put the glass cats in the 55g but then get rid of the angel fish....and the tetra's can be rather nippy..and glass cats seem to loose their tails to nippy ones. Also glass cats are not the best swimmers....they do much better with a very soft gentle water movement. so...looking at oyur list...i cant say where that might be.

rasboras, kuhli loaches, glass cats, neons .get a long very well...
 
18 Celsius is the low 60's, right?
64 degrees Fahrenheit.

For the most part, I believe the clown loaches and plecos are okay together. The only thing I know to question about that would be the pleco's appetite for a loaches' slime coating. Loaches don't have scales, so they would be vulnerable.. same as with goldfish, discus.. other fish like that. I have plecos, but not with loaches. So someone else will have to verify this part for you.. on their compatibility.
Shouldn't be an issue. Loaches are quite feisty in their own right compared to other species hence I suggested earlier some plecos will do well with loaches but there are exceptions involving size and temperament issues. By far, one of the nastiest plecos is Acanthicus adonis but these also grow to 39 inches, something not to consider at all if you want a pleco in a tank.

For the 65g, could I have 6 dwarf neon rainbows, 1 electric yellow cichlid, 1 convict cichlid (if there's just 1 and there isn't a male and female, they can be housed with other slightly aggressive fish, right?) 4 giant danios, 4 rosy barbs, 4 filament barbs, and 4 arulius barbs? Might be overstocked.. so might have to not get 1 of the types of barbs.
Please do not mix electric yellow cichlids and convicts. They will never make good community fish in general. The rest however are fine. Focus on bottom dwellers after this. You might want to note that rosy barbs prefer cooler waters so be sure your other fish will tolerate a temperature range no higher than 78 degrees Fahrenheit. Rubber lipped plecos, bristlenose plecos, L010a and clown plecos will work well here.

i would put the glass cats in the 55g but then get rid of the angel fish....and the tetra's can be rather nippy..and glass cats seem to loose their tails to nippy ones. Also glass cats are not the best swimmers....they do much better with a very soft gentle water movement. so...looking at oyur list...i cant say where that might be.
None of the tetras he listed is that nippy. Angelfish will work with glass catfish provided the tank is spacious enough to allow both species to coexist together. I rather think as Sawyer prefers only one angelfish, the compatibility issue is moot. A lone angelfish tends to mind its own business although some species may behave too dominant for the likes of others but I doubt this would happen.

are zebra danios nippy?
Unless you're keeping a large group, they can be. They're also too boisterous so bear in mind the likes of glass catfish and a few other placid tankmates will not be able to get their share of food if the zebra danios continue hogging anything. In my experience, the danios seem to eat their heart out until they fit to burst.
 
IDK if any else mentiones it already, but I would not advise keeping that many female bettas together, even the females can get aggressive to eachother, especially if they don't have a lot of space.
 
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