substrate for african cichlids

Bill1171

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I recently gave my girlfriend a 29 gallon tank. She originally wanted saltwater, because she wants colorful fish. After talking about it I think we decided that freshwater would be better since, in my opinion, it is easier to take care of a freshwater tank than saltwater.

Anyway, we already put crushed coral in the tank (no H20, yet), will the cc be ok for african cichlids?

One more question, does anyone use sand in their south and/or central american cichlid tanks?

Bill
 
I would use sand in an African with driftwood and stone decor(plantless)
It will bring out the Colors in the fish!!!

I use sand in small South/Central American Cichlid set-ups(Dwarfs)
It is harder to Vaccum sand, Larger Ciclids FlowerHorns,Oscars ETC. give off a lot of waste!!!

Also Africans are "Brackish" meaning some salt will be added...

Keep us posted good luck! :dive2: :dive2: :dive2: :dive2: :dive2: :dive2:
 
i dont think africans are brackish water fish they like harder water meaning higher ph maybe some rift salt i think the crushed coral would be fine for them it raises the ph bringing out there colors
 
african rift lakes are deffinately not brackish waters however i do add some aquarium salt to my water just to help keep unwated freshwater parasites at bay and it seems to be working and its not detrimental to your fish.
 
The African Rift Lake cichlids don't need aquarium salt unless they have an outbreak of ich (there has been alot of debate here at AC over usage of salt--it is just not necessary as a regular additive for your fish. Do a search).

What alot of fishkeepers use to create a similar chemical balance to the Lakes is "Rift Lake Salts", available from several companies. These "salts" are actually just 7-10% salt; the remainder conisists of minerals they "need". ARL cichlids who have been bred in the US/Canada for a few generations have pretty much become conditioned to waters without these "salts," and there are those who do not think them necessary. From my own experience, when I do a partial water change and add the dissolved salts, I see a discernible change in activity in my Peacocks and Brichardi. They act livelier and seem happier; their colors also tend to be more vivid (I've tried going without as an experiment).
I highly recommend SeaChem's Rift Lake Cichlid Salts; they are readily dissolved, highly concentrated, and an excellent price. (Purchased online through PetSmart.) Just my two tater's worth. :)

RE: substrate: The crushed coral or crushed shells add to the hardness of your water, which is another component of their necessary environment. I mix crushed shells, pea gravel, and sand to provide the males with a great excavating foundation. They love moving the substrate, and it's great to watch these little engineers move shells, small rocks, and sand with their mouths to create a little area to the floor of the tank in which to "dance" with their ladies!!!!! When they get too cocky, I just flatten it and let them start again.
 
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Africans are "Brackish" meaning some salt will be added
African cichlids are decidedly not brackish water fish. they do require hard, alkaline water however, and if your water is soft and insufficiently hard for maintainance of african cichlids, you can achieve this by the addition of crushed coral or coral sand to the tank as substrate or in the filter.

however i do add some aquarium salt to my water just to help keep unwated freshwater parasites at bay
salt will not keep parasites at bay. those parasites which will infect a 'freshwater' tank will also take up residence on fish in a 'brackish' tank. if it seems to be working, it's simply because you have no parasites. moreover, the continuous use of salt may 'acclimate' any parasites in the tank to the higher salinity and then, when you need to use salt to erradicate them, it won't work.

and finally, a 29 gallon tank is too small for those Africans from Lake Malawi. you can successfully keep some smaller species such as the Julidochromis from Lake Tanganyika.
 
Like the others said, crushed coral is fine for Africans. It can cause the tank to be really cloudy initially though. I use Eco Complete Cichlid sand in my African tank (its black and white mixed) and it buffered the water just a little. I put CC in my filter for the added buffering. You could also use Aragonite sand if you wanted some sand that buffers.

And I agree, that you should go with cichlids from Lake Tang :)
 
use sand instead of crushed coral

It would be alot better for the health of your fish to use cichlid sand for you tank crushed coral has alot of sharp edged that can harm your fish when they push around, and dig in the substrate. Sand is alot harder to vacum but it is worth the extra effort.


Geno.





55g Malawi mix
10 Africans
1 crayfish
1 bichir
and a catfish
 
Thanks for all the info. Once Tonya decides what fish she wants to get and we get the tank up and running I will try to post pictures.

Bill
 
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